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How do I install Office 2003 with no key, Command line. - Microsoft Office forums


How do I install Office 2003 with no key, Command line.

Posted: 27 Jun 2005 08:06 AM PDT

Hi Dora,

To add one bit to Glenn's reply, my understanding is
that the technique you were using in prior versions
was dropped in Office 2003, except when using the
OEM deployment tools (http://microsoft.com/oem )

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<<"Dora" <microsoft.com> wrote in message news:com...
I need to perform a command line installation of Office 2003 on a single
machine with no PIDKEY. In preparation for a corporate ghost. I've been
doing this with Office2000 and OfficeXP with no problem. Once ghosted, I can
put the right keys to the right computers.

Can someone help me with the different command line options?

Dora >>
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Let us know if this helped you,

Bob Buckland ?:-)
MS Office System Products MVP

*Courtesy is not expensive and can pay big dividends*

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Office 2003 Questions Before I Buy.

Posted: 27 Jun 2005 01:43 AM PDT

Thank you DL for taking the trouble to answer my queries.
--


Many thanks
JD


"DL" wrote:
 

all office programs lock up when trying to access another folder

Posted: 26 Jun 2005 04:50 AM PDT

Right-click on the My Computer icon on the Windows desktop,
left-click on Disconnect Network Drive, and disconnect any mapped
network drives that are not currently available.

Clyde wrote: 

office xp volume licensing did no activate

Posted: 25 Jun 2005 05:35 PM PDT

Hi Kamal,

If you install an Office XP edition to an Office Admin Point
using a volume license key and deploy from that point you wouldn't
normally be asked to activate. What process are you using?

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<<"Kamal Mitwasi" <microsoft.com> wrote in message
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Hi all,
I have been installing our office XP volume licensing version in my company
for more than two years now, and I know that it is a legitimate version. But
recently it stopped activating and it asked me to call to activate. I just
want to no why this happened, and whether or not I have to call Microsoft to
activate it every time I install it now.
I appreciate any help.
Kamal Mitwasi >>
--
Bob Buckland ?:-)
MS Office System Products MVP

*Courtesy is not expensive and can pay big dividends*

For Everyday MS Office tips to "use right away" -
http://microsoft.com/events/series/administrativetipsandtricks.mspx




Office 2000 Developer

Posted: 23 Jun 2005 05:26 PM PDT

Thanks again. I will give it a shot.

"garfield-n-odie" wrote:
 

Problem in installing Business Contact Manager

Posted: 23 Jun 2005 10:36 AM PDT

Something
Does the error read as follows " Unable to install Business Contact Manager.
Error during installation "Setup failed to configure the server. Refer to
the
server log error log for more information."

If so check these articles out.


http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=KB;EN-US;840018


http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=KB;EN-US;901163

It is most likely your SQL server the error is referring to



This sounds like a issue with the SQL Server during the
installation of your BCM.
"Something" <microsoft.com> wrote in message
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Microsoft Office XP Professional mit FrontPage

Posted: 23 Jun 2005 08:10 AM PDT

Ok.THX:
--
I love Microsoft World......


"Bob Buckland ?:-)" wrote:
 

when I select activation phone, I get no phone number

Posted: 22 Jun 2005 08:01 PM PDT

Paying
Office Activation: (888) 652-2342


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Complete uninstall Office 2003

Posted: 22 Jun 2005 07:32 AM PDT

On your office cd their is also another utility called offcln.exe this can
help as help


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unable to activate product

Posted: 21 Jun 2005 11:14 PM PDT

I have the same problem. When I select activate by phone and click NEXT, the
dialog box goes away and no phone number pops up. Nothing. Does anyone have
a phone number to call for activation?

"Bob Buckland ?:-)" wrote:
 

Office language preference

Posted: 21 Jun 2005 08:49 AM PDT

morayeel605 wrote: 

You purchase them in English.


Microsoft CRM - View Problems - Column Heading Text Not Displaying

Microsoft CRM - View Problems - Column Heading Text Not Displaying


View Problems - Column Heading Text Not Displaying

Posted: 22 Jun 2004 04:25 AM PDT

Thanks for your help - I don't have the CD's to hand to check the versions
(I didn't perform either install myself) and this installation was a
reinstall over the previous installation (we exported the customisations,
reinstalled, then imported and published them) so can't check the help file
links but it sounds like it's most likely the cause of the problem.

I've just tried customising the lead form and we do indeed get blank tabs
and fields in the form designer, though the forms and customisations work ok
when in use.

Thanks for your speedy replies, much appreciated.

Steve

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but 
would 
seemingly 
it 
would 
we 


CRM AD Integration

Posted: 22 Jun 2004 01:05 AM PDT

Sorry... I meant that, AFAIK, installing CRM does not modify the AD schema


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Looking for tutorial, manual or FAQ!

Posted: 21 Jun 2004 11:50 PM PDT

Nothing like that exists, and theres no datagrid and other
components,...however I have seen a third party that offers them at a price

The closest thing available from microsoft is here:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/dnmbscrm/html/mbs_crmappdup.asp

Its a poor example, and there might be one or two more on msdn, just do a
search........other than that, its all about knowing how to use ASP.NET and
C#....(or vb.net i suppose)

-Gary

"ewolthaus" <microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:com... 
building webforms in MS CRM, using the datagrid (and similar stuff) and the
DHTML components from MS CRM? 
surface. 
form with a datagrid on it, so the user can add accounts to a datagrid. 
moment I'm looking for answers in the cached files of IE... 


SDK basics

Posted: 21 Jun 2004 11:46 PM PDT

oh, forgot to mention..........make a backup of your isv.config, if you make
any errors you won't be able to access your crm server!!

-Gary

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you 
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/CrmSdk1_2/htm/v1d2microsoftcrmversion12sdk.asp 
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"hello 
note. 
people 
in 
SDK 
reading 
off 
to 
tab 
area: 
launch 
this 
buttons 
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http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/dnmbscrm/html/mbs_crmappdup.asp 


Removing Picklist Values

Posted: 21 Jun 2004 02:44 PM PDT

You should also see if your picklist field has been mapped
to another picklist field. If so, I'd remove the same
values in both.
 
Probably the biggest thing 
currently using one of the 
value, but those 
to get an idea of how 
update those records to 
you will just see a 
in 
not 
pointers 

Active Directory and Exchange

Posted: 21 Jun 2004 01:03 PM PDT

Thank you
 
Depending on the network 
recommended. but for a 
<microsoft.com> wrote: 

Customization Tracking

Posted: 21 Jun 2004 11:36 AM PDT

View changes and, in one case, field customizations.
There was one change that was made that nobody is
confessing to and I have two suspects and no
accountability. Very distressing. It is undoable, but I
am concerned that I am going to have to limit all changes
to one person, which is not ideal either, but it seems I
may have no other choice.

 
would recommend 
change or 
message 
Is 
the 

can't access CRM server

Posted: 21 Jun 2004 10:20 AM PDT

Are you rigth who the DNS are working?
Try this:
1. Click Start / Run...
2. Type cmd
3. Type ping <your server>. eg: ping mycrm.mydomain.com

What happens?

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the 
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Mixed Mode

Posted: 21 Jun 2004 06:10 AM PDT

Correct. The domain into which you install CRM must be set to Native
mode otherwise the installation will fail. Child domains which are in
mixed mode are supported but everything related to CRM must be in the
native mode domain.



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Help With CRM Features

Posted: 21 Jun 2004 12:59 AM PDT

For the faxing piece.. you'll need Omnirush from zFirm www.zfirm.com


LeVar Berry
CEO
eDriven Solutions LTD
Ph. (513)403-1210 Fax: (702)995-0843
Step Into the Fast Lane For eSuccess


"Fakhruddin Zavery" <com> wrote in message news:phx.gbl...
Hi,

You only need Exchange should you wish to in-corporate e-mail functionality
and collaboration within the users. Otherwise CRM runs just fine without it.

On the fax issue I'm not quite sure, as have never tried it but I have my
feelings that it might not be possible directly. Please correct me if I'm
wrong.

Thanks and Regards
Fakhruddin

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need help pls - post callouts sdk

Posted: 20 Jun 2004 04:58 PM PDT

thanks John, I'll have a look at it. 
url=/library/en-us/CrmSdk1_2/htm/v1d2postcallouts.asp 
message 
shows 
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the 

KB Article -Repost

Posted: 18 Jun 2004 07:45 AM PDT

where exactly did you post this text? o the KB Editor
itself?
 

Microsoft Word - Word can't handle links that contain "#"

Microsoft Word - Word can't handle links that contain "#"


Word can't handle links that contain "#"

Posted: 01 Oct 2013 02:44 PM PDT

Paste http://www.washington.edu/students/crscat/#JSIS into a new Word 2013 document.

Ctrl + click that link.

It doesn't work.

 

Now paste it into IE.  It works.

 

Is there a way to get it to work in Word 2013?

 

I have Windows 7 and IE 10.

Unable to Open Excel or Word docs from Sharepoint into respective programmes

Posted: 01 Oct 2013 02:36 PM PDT

Just built new laptop and installed Home & Business 2013 and get the following  message when trying to open excel or word docs from SharePoint

 

 "Sorry, your session has expired. Please refresh the page" 

 to continue if you say ok it comes back again and will not open the docs, and will close down and return to Web App

Controlling Image Width Using DPI in Word 2010

Posted: 01 Oct 2013 12:51 PM PDT

Word does not seem to respect the DPI property of screen shot images I create in my graphics program (SnagIt). In other programs, such as Adobe FrameMaker and MadCap Flare, I can decide ahead of time what size I want my images to be by setting the DPI in SnagIt. Then, when I import them, they appear with the width that corresponds to this basic formula: DPI = Pixels / Desired Width.

For instance, if I have an image that is 400 pixels wide, and I need it to appear as a 2 inch wide image in my document, I can set the DPI to 200 in my graphics software (200DPI = 400pixels/2").

In Word, the "100%" option under  Size and Position > Scale > Width seems to be 96 DPI. Is there a way I can get Word to simply use the DPI of the image so it displays at the width I'd expect, following the formula of DPI = Pixels / (Desired Width in Inches)?

document access problems-"location unavailable"

Posted: 01 Oct 2013 12:30 PM PDT

I have tried opening documents stored in 'My Documents' or 'Documents' from my desktop. I get the error message: "C:\Users\my name\Documents refers to a location that is unavailable. It could be on a hard drive on this computer, or on a network., etc." I've tried the suggestions offered  and all checks out. The end of the message says "If it still cannot be located, the information might have been moved to another location." I did not adjust anything, move anything, and find this most frustrating. Any guidance on this would be greatly appreciated!

Envelopes don't print correctly

Posted: 01 Oct 2013 11:35 AM PDT

Using Word 2007 and Vista Professional and HP Printer. #10 Envelopes won't print the return address or send to address in the correct position. They print as if on an 8.5x11 sheet of paper in landscape mode with the send to address in the middle of the page and the return address in the upper left corner. Have checked and re-checked all settings but can't seem to fix. Has to be something simple as has worked fine in the past. Printing from a new Word doc and not saving the envelope to the document.

Recovering a corrupt file

Posted: 01 Oct 2013 11:11 AM PDT

Help!  I researched and wrote a paper for an important class and it is not allowing me to open it up.  It indicates that it is corrupt.  We have tried to use various recovery programs through micro-soft without success.  Is there anything else I can do?

Word..closes itself due to 'word has stopped working and must close down' error

Posted: 01 Oct 2013 10:00 AM PDT

after install of microsoft office professional plus 2013 everything working except word..closes itself due to 'word has stopped working and must close down' error...have installed from download and through cd same thing happens....please help!!!!!

I am having the exact same problem and desperately need to get onto word as that is where all my documents are.................frustrating or what!  I cant seem to get anywhere to find out how to resolve this either.

track changes balloons: print comments only, not formatting

Posted: 01 Oct 2013 09:23 AM PDT

We've found a way to show the comment balloons only and not the formatting balloons on screen. But is there a way to duplicate that when printing? (Print only the comments and not the formatting balloons).

Word / Excel 2013

Posted: 01 Oct 2013 08:14 AM PDT

when i open a document using excel or word 2013 i get an error message saying the program has stopped working and I will be notified when a solution becomes available. 

I've followed the routine to repair the programme but still get the same message. Powerpoint works fine so I don't know what to do next to get it up and running and hope someone can provide the answer

Table of Contents includes unwanted header

Posted: 01 Oct 2013 08:06 AM PDT

I created individual sections of a major document, and then added all of the sections into one document.  I inserted a Table of Contents, and the problem is that the header from Section 1 is on every page of the Table of Contents.  How can I have the headers only start at the beginning of the first section?

 

Thanks for any assistance!

Mail merge only produces one page of labels

Posted: 01 Oct 2013 08:04 AM PDT

I'm using Word 2007 with an Excel spreadsheet to aggregate some 6-up Avery labels.

When I go to Finish & Merge > Edit Individual Documents, and choose All Records, I only get the first page of labels in file named Labels11 (or whatever the latest iteration of my attempt is).

If I repeat the exercise and choose, instead of All Records, records 2-41, I still get only 1 page of labels; these include records 3, 10, 17, 24, 31 and 38.

How can I get the entire body of labels on multiple sheets?

Beth

Microsoft Word not working for University 365...?

Posted: 01 Oct 2013 07:37 AM PDT

Hi, I got The University 356 office yesterday and all the programs work fine except Word. When I open it, it just says "Microsoft Word had stopped working. A problem caused the program to stop working correctly. Windows will notify you if a solution is available" I'm not particularly good on computers and I have no idea what to do...

How can i remove an automatical symbol which has shown up when i wanted to mark a text?

Posted: 01 Oct 2013 07:33 AM PDT

 

 

Well, these wierd symbols keep showing up in my word documents and i want them to go away. They started to appear when i wanted to insert a source into the text. I really don't have any idea how to fix this. I have only attempted to restart my computer but they still are in my documents.

Would anyone like to help me, please.

 

 

Can I make hyperlinks portable?

Posted: 01 Oct 2013 07:33 AM PDT

I created a Word 2010 document with hyperlinks to references (PDFs) within the text.  I want to make this portable, so the hyperlinks work on whatever computer I (or our clients) use.  I have the Word document and the PDFs saved in the same folder.  I saved the folder on a jump drive, but when I plugged it in to a laptop, I needed to change each hyperlink in order for it to work.  Changing the hyperlink base didn't work.  So now that jump drive works on that specific laptop, but when plugged into another computer the links don't work...

Is there a way to make the links work regardless of what computer we're using?  Thanks!

updating office 2010 content for Windows XP OS

Posted: 01 Oct 2013 06:13 AM PDT

I run a Windows XP Operating System and I also have Microsoft Office 2010 Student Edition. Can I update all of the content on my version of Microsoft Office? Thank you and God bless you.

old doc says made in newer version than I have?? I have 2003 and 2013 how to open doc?

Posted: 01 Oct 2013 03:52 AM PDT

I want to open old doc. but I get message that it was made in newer version  I have 2013 and 2003 . How to open important doc?  doc was downloaded 2012 but may have been carried over from an earlier cpu.

Prompt for "Document Properties" on using "Save As"

Posted: 01 Oct 2013 03:03 AM PDT

I used Word 2000 for many years.  I generate a weekly newsletter that is developed from the previous week's one.  Each week I use "Save As" to convert the previous week's issue to this week's one. In Word 2000 I got a prompt for "Document Properties" in which I updated a couple of fields containing text (issue date, issue number etc) that appear in several places in the document, (page headers, titles, etc.)  

In Word 2013 I cannot find out how to do the same thing.  I have to go through several layers of menus and click targets to find the properties I want to update.  Often I forget to do this.  How do I set up the same automatic prompt for these properties?  

Print got shrunk

Posted: 01 Oct 2013 02:38 AM PDT

Whenever I try to print a doc it got shrunk and leaves a margin of about 1" at bottom ans 0.5" on left.... Paper size is A4. Printer setting is fine every where.....
There is no shrinking or margin problem in printing pdf or other file....
Every time I have to convert my docx files to pdf before printing to get it right ..... 
Problem begin after using office 2010. Earlier it was fine (on word 2007)

* I've checked margin setting, header , printer setting etc they are all set to A4 size... 

I can't open Word or Excel anymore!

Posted: 01 Oct 2013 01:28 AM PDT

I keep getting the same message when I try to open word or excel: 
"Microsoft word/excel has stopped working. 
A problem has caused the programme to stop working correctly. Windows will close the programme and notify you if a solution is available"
Help!!

mini translator

Posted: 01 Oct 2013 01:16 AM PDT

i installed the mini translator but the translator box disappears fast and i can't see the translation. it works well in other offices programs.

Docx files are trying to open in Word (2010) and Wordpad at the same time (Win7)

Posted: 30 Sep 2013 11:20 PM PDT

My problem began with the recent Windows Update issue where KB2760411, KB2760588 and KB2760583 were being offered repeatedly after being installed. Microsoft fixed the problem quickly, but I was left with a the following issue involving .docx files:

 

Selecting a .docx file causes Word 2010 and Wordpad to attempt to open it at the same time. Since Word beats Wordpad by a split second, I get error messages from Word that I must click on to get them out of the way before I can view my document in Word 2010.  Word is the program that SHOULD be opening it.  Why Wordpad has suddenly decided to get in the act, I don't know.  The error messages are as follows:

 

1. "There was a problem sending the command to the program."

     The title bar has the document's name and path and is coming from Wordpad.

     I click OK and the next error box opens.

 

2. "The document C:(full path) is in use by another application and cannot be accessed."

     When I click "OK", both the message and WordPad disappear.

 

Meanwhile Word 2010 has finished loading the document behind all the error message boxes and once I close them, I can work on it.

 

In File Type Associations, the default program for .docx files is Microsoft Office Client Virtualization Handler.

 

In Default Programs, Wordpad isn't assigned the default for ANY file types, so I don't know why it's getting involved in opening the files.  I noted that Microsoft Office or Word aren't in the list of Default Programs, but I'm guessing it's supposed to be that way??

 

Does anyone have any ideas?

365 will not open. it worked for about a week and then will not start. help

Posted: 30 Sep 2013 09:11 PM PDT

Worked for about a week.  now every time I click it goes to my desktop and stops.  I have windows 8.  I tried the quick repair and online repair but it stops in the middle of the process.  How do I fix it?

Change Word 2013 custom template menu to list not icons

Posted: 30 Sep 2013 09:01 PM PDT

Our company has quite a lot of custom templates which incorporate macros etc.  In Word 2003 we could change how the template menu appeared so that a briefer "List" style of menu appeared instead of the "Icon" style of menu.  This made it easier to select the required template from the variety available.

Now in Word 2013 its even worse the Icons are huge and you have to peddle down through 2 drag bars to get to what you want to find - time consuming and annoying.

Is there any way to change the Template menu so that "List" style is available (i.e. alphabetically listed by name rather than a huge icon type picture of what the template looks like).

 

NB  You do not offer the option below of choosing Office on Windows 9 - that is our system.

 

Bev

 

 

Word 2007 stopped working

Posted: 30 Sep 2013 08:34 PM PDT

Hi,

Recently Word 2007 keeps crashing. It can sometimes last for a while but it can also crash every time i begin to type.
I have rebooted my computer a few times but it has not helped.

The error details read as follows:

Problem signature:
  Problem Event Name:    CLR20r3
  Problem Signature 01:    winword.exe
  Problem Signature 02:    12.0.6683.5001
  Problem Signature 03:    51fd43eb
  Problem Signature 04:    SBSDKUtilities
  Problem Signature 05:    1.1.233.0
  Problem Signature 06:    5089bf57
  Problem Signature 07:    b2
  Problem Signature 08:    25
  Problem Signature 09:    PSZQOADHX1U5ZAHBHOHGHLDGIY4QIXHX
  OS Version:    6.1.7601.2.1.0.768.3
  Locale ID:    3081

Additional information about the problem:
  LCID:    1033
  Brand:    Office12Crash
  skulcid:    1033

Read our privacy statement online:
  http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?linkid=104288&clcid=0x0409

If the online privacy statement is not available, please read our privacy statement offline:
  C:\windows\system32\en-US\erofflps.txt

What is the problem and how can I repair it? (Word came with the computer and I'm nt sure if I still have the codes)

Microsfot Word error 1335

Posted: 30 Sep 2013 08:32 PM PDT

Has anyone had this error code while starting Word on a Surface RT?

insert youtube video in word 2013 did not work

Posted: 30 Sep 2013 07:16 PM PDT

When Insert Video -> Youtube,  select a video and insert, in a newly created blank word 2013 document, nothing happened. However, if Insert Video -> Bing Video Search, even the video appears to be from youtube, a video is inserted as expected. The 3rd option (From a Video Embedded Code) works as well, albeit only a black square is insert, the video plays nonetheless.


The Word is part of Office 365 Home subscription installed on a 64-bit Windows Pro 8.1. Tried to re-install the Office in 64-bit version and the problem still exists.

Take a word document~email(choices XPS or PDF) editor needs it in .DOC format

Posted: 30 Sep 2013 06:19 PM PDT

I have 400 page book, I wrote in Word 2007. When I sent it to my editor, the email gives me two choices:
PDF or XPS.
I sent it PDF.
My editor had to convert it into a .DOC in order to be able to allow the editing process.

My question is how can I email my original book to her in .doc instead of PDF. I did figure out how to convert PDF to .DOC but I still don't understand how to email it. I guess not everyone has the ability to read a word document. I appreciate the help/

Changing the default format for lists in Word 2010

Posted: 30 Sep 2013 06:17 PM PDT

Is there a way to permanently kill the "Don't add space between paragraphs of the same style" option in Word 2010? It's a format I never want, and I spend too much time "unfixing" lists. Each time I start a new list, Word automatically rechecks the box that eliminates the space between the paragraphs. Then it automatically indents the list .25 inch. I've tried modifying the Normal.dot files without any success. Is there a way to have a new list begin with the same paragraph spacing and the indentation as in the preceding paragraph (which is usually the Normal style)?

word 2010

Posted: 30 Sep 2013 05:49 PM PDT

after you crtl end and you at the bottom of a page and you go to insert a page break manually is it supposed to go to the third page or the second?

why does it say 'office is busy' when i try to open word?

Posted: 30 Sep 2013 05:13 PM PDT

when I click on Microsoft office a box comes up that says 'office is busy'.

undo in microsoft word

Posted: 30 Sep 2013 04:33 PM PDT

I hit a key and lost about one half of a page in Microsoft Word XP.  Is there a way to recover it?  "Undo" is a light grey and does nothing when keyed.

Programs Compatibility for Outlook 2003 and MS Suite 2007 Applications

Posted: 30 Sep 2013 04:02 PM PDT

After windows 7 was re-installed, I could no longer see my Outlook 2003 emails or the program in general.  Also, this guy re-installed MS office Suite 2007.  However, now I cannot see ALL of my former Word docs...only some of the older ones.

 

So, how can I see Outlook 2003 program and Word files.

 I have NOT installed Outlook 2007 yet because I did not know whether this would help or hurt the problem.

 

Thanks for any help you can offer.

 

Randy

Open Office - [discuss] How should OOo deal with ods-spreadsheets producedby Excel 2010?

Open Office - [discuss] How should OOo deal with ods-spreadsheets producedby Excel 2010?


[discuss] How should OOo deal with ods-spreadsheets producedby Excel 2010?

Posted: 14 Apr 2010 10:52 AM PDT

Hi Niklas,

Niklas Nebel schrieb: 

The problem is, that Excel 2010 has a lot of _new_ functions. Therefore
the user gets a lot of #NAME? errors. He can see in the input line, what
formula causes this error, but the bad thing is, that the user is not
able to see the value, that has been calculated in Excel.
 

No, you cannot use xls, because the functions are not available in xls.
To make it clearer. Up to Excel 2007 there are only small problems. Most
major functions have a counterpart in the other application. But with
Excel 2010 we get more than 50 new functions. A lot of them can be
mapped to Calc function. But there are at least AGGREGATE, CONFIDENCE.T,
CEILING.PRECISE, F.DIST, MODE.MULT and NETWORKSDAYS.INTL (I have not yet
examined all the others) where a simple mapping is impossible.

You wrote:
"When saving, we would have to know if the file is meant to be opened in
Excel. In the end, it would boil down to choosing a different file
format."
That would be the choice C of my initial posting?

kind regards
Regina



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[discuss] Official request to the community council [was: OOoand Oracle]

Posted: 13 Apr 2010 02:25 PM PDT

Hi Cor, all

I changed the subject, because I want to follow your proposal to
position my concerns officially at the Community Council, while keeping
in this thread in order to inform the community about this specific request.

*Please don't support the application independency of the ODF document
icons!*

Cor Nouws schrieb: 
We've been discussing some of my personal concerns on several lists and
in private mail, but one point among several Sun/Oracle decisions in the
past few months needs clarification by the Community Council IMO:

Rosana Ardila stated on discuss@ux [1] and branding@marketing [2] with
regards to the new document icons that don't include any OpenOffice.org
branding or resemblance: "Where there is no room for changes is on the
branding of the icons (no gulls). The idea of supporting ODF as a
application independent open standard is the priority."

This priority has never been decided nor supported by the community.

In Spring 2009 there has been a decision by the Engineering Steering
Committee going far beyond it's responsibilities described as "Provide
advice on technical implementations in case of conflicting interests."
on the CC homepage [3] that has only been mentioned in their minutes [4].

Half a year later Lutz Höger blogged about the new ODF icons on GullFOSS
[5] and if not an attentive community member had noticed it (Thanks,
Volker!), they would have been implemented in OOo3.2.0 without further
notice.

During the last months there have been concerns, discussions and
proposals on several lists, but the only result was an update of the
icons with slightly more contrast.

I don't want to discuss the design of the icons here - it's about their
basics:

Why should OpenOffice.org give away it's presence on the user's desktop
- the main place to be recognized by the people - only to support the
"application independency" of ODF?

We want to support ODF - even on the desktop. So let's add an "ODF"
badge to every ODF document and all the applications supporting this
document format.

But I know that I'm not alone, if I don't support giving up OOo branding
in the document icons.

Application independency is just one of several important aspects of ODF
- interoperability can be promoted by the ODF badge on similar (even on
different) document icons, but allowing us to promote OpenOffice.org at
the same time (and telling the users that they open *our* application to
work on ODF documents) will not reduce ODF perception to a measurable
degree.

On the contrast: I could imagine that it might be much easier for other
producers of ODF supporting applications to follow our way to support
ODF by similar document icons, if they would contain an application
related symbol like the ones I proposed for OOo [6].

It's reasonable for Oracle to remove the Sun branding in StarOffice
document icons already in the last version called "StarOffice". But
this can't be a reason for OpenOffice.org to follow this step.
StarOffice doesn't need it's branding any more - on the contrast, it's
nonconstructive for future development.

OpenOffice.org needs to stay visible on our users desktops - please find
a way to tell our major code contributor that being part of the
community means not to ignore the minority. Especially if this minority
(I'm quite sure that it is the majority if we would count people) spends
a lot of dedication, idealism and time for our community and our product.

I don't want to provide manpower for free to a marketing strategy that
doesn't have OpenOffice.org as main focus. 
Sorry, I don't have lots of positive remarks on this topic, but
following the recent CC meetings, it seems that your work becomes more
target- and community-oriented by an improved wiki presence,
participation in the newsletter and open IRC slots in your meetings :-) 
I don't want to run away - I've spent hundreds (thousands?) of hours for
OOo during the last six years. I've done this with joy and have been
convinced of the necessity and reasonability of this work. I want to be
able to keep on with this work in future.

Best regards

Bernhard

[1]: http://ux.openoffice.org/servlets/ReadMsg?list=discuss&msgNo=4888

[2]:
http://marketing.openoffice.org/servlets/ReadMsg?list=branding&msgNo=112

[3]: http://council.openoffice.org/esc/index.html

[4]:
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/ESC_meeting_minutes_20090309#proposal_for_unified_ ODF_Document_icons

[5]: http://blogs.sun.com/GullFOSS/entry/unified_odf_icons

[6]:
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/File:ODF_textdocument_different_sizes_S.png


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[discuss] OOo and Oracle

Posted: 13 Apr 2010 03:25 AM PDT

Hi Bruce,

Bruce Martin wrote (13-04-10 18:38) 

I think it is worth looking to the mails on releases @:
http://www.openoffice.org/servlets/ReadMsg?list=releases&msgNo=15469

Best wishes,
Cor

-- 

Cor Nouws
- ideas/remarks for the community council?
- http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Community_Council


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[discuss] Improvements to the program

Posted: 06 Apr 2010 10:16 PM PDT

On Apr 7, 2010, at 12:28 PM, Tony Pursell wrote:
 

No, that may have worked, up to a point, for EasyWriter thirty years ago, but it's an abuse of OpenOffice.org, and will sooner or later screw up your page layout. You can Format->Paragraph, pick (if it is not already picked) Indents & Spacing, and enter a value in Spacing:Below paragraph, but if you're sensible, you do the same thing, but apply it to a style, and then apply the style to the paragraphs.

Same thing for Microsoft Word (going back to Word for DOS 1.0, back in 1983), same thing for Pages (in Apple iWork), same thing for any WYSIWYG word processor I know of. Same thing, too, for any modern markup language, for that matter, if you adjust the terminology a little -- even for HTML -- going back at least to when GML (without the S) was an IBM proprietary product for mainframes and laser printers were the size of a VW bus.

You can use the point of a steak knife to turn a Philips-head screw if you insist on it, but it's bad for the knife and bad for the screw, and is likely to end in tears.

--
John W Kennedy
"The grand art mastered the thudding hammer of Thor
And the heart of our lord Taliessin determined the war."
-- Charles Williams. "Mount Badon"




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[discuss] PDF's

Posted: 06 Apr 2010 01:39 PM PDT

Bruce Martin wrote: 

I don't know about Erik (who, by the way, is not subscribed to the
list), but I'm not a teacher. I have taught seniors at a local center to
use their computers, unfortunately before I encountered OOo. Mostly
they'd been given the computers by their "kids" and had no idea what to
do with them! I think there are a lot of things common to both those
kinds of students, in terms of creating fun stuff without a lot of fuss,
and if I ever get back into that I'll check out the kinds of things you
bring up here. 

Me too! I took Mechanical Drawing as an elective in high school in 1961
-- preferred it to Home Ec!
 

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[discuss] Product improvements

Posted: 05 Apr 2010 08:34 PM PDT

Bhargav Prasanna wrote: 

No, I don't think so.

Michael, try sending a message to
discuss-subscribe-michaelbscheff=org. Subject and
content don't matter, just the address. You should soon get a
confirmation message; respond to that, and you'll be subscribed. If you
have any trouble with this, I'll help off-list.

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[discuss] word perfect read and compatible

Posted: 30 Mar 2010 06:23 AM PDT

Which version of WP?

Do you have a sample file for testing?

Bruce Martin
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Hi - Can anyone please tell what program is compatible with word
perfect and can read wordperfect etc.?
Many Thanks.
Bob

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[discuss] OOo for iPod/iPhone

Posted: 24 Mar 2010 03:43 PM PDT

Hm, I don't dislike their software by any means, most of their
products don't really fit any needs I have, for example my main
requirement of a phone is ridiculously good battery life because I'm
forgetful. I just...respect that they are good for some people, but
not for my needs.



On 25 March 2010 23:04, Jan Lolling <com> wrote: 

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[discuss] 4 key points

Posted: 24 Mar 2010 11:56 AM PDT

> > The Renaissance project is shaping up really well. We need to get as many 

I don't want to sound negative, but... the ribbon is a bad idea, imho.

There are far too many inconsistencies in the ribbon interface. Things move, depending on
what you are doing, for no obvious reason. Sometimes buttons are large, sometimes they
are small. Sometimes they have an icon - sometimes the same button does not. Back in my
day, 'Consistency' was drummed into you when you learnt UI design.

I've been teaching MSO for several years. Office 2007 has just caused headaches - to
students who use a machine set up with different resolution, who find the layout of MSO
changes on each machine. At least Office 2003 tried to keep all the buttons stuck in one
place.

I feel like an idiot when someone in a class asks a question and I cannot easily answer,
because I find the MSO 07 interface so counter-intuitive. I'm used to the file/edit/etc way of
working. Finding years' worth of teaching materials suddenly become obsolete because
Microsoft have decided they will does not make you want to stay with the product. At least
handouts prepared for Word 97 could be used with Word 2003, with minimal editing.

What do we say to organisations who have invested in training and manuals for OOo3.x if 4.x
looks weird - "oh, sorry, buy more stuff for the 'free' software"?

The OOo interface might benefit from a bit of sprucing up (they could do a lot worse than
Symphony IMO), but copying MSO will cause far more annoyances than it fixes. If an
interface overhaul is deemed appropriate, either give the user a choice of new or old
interface (a-la Winzip), or make sure a fork can continue to support the old interface with any
new features.

Those are my own thoughts anyway!

Clarke

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