| [discuss] Some ideas for improving openoffice Posted: 24 Jul 2007 03:27 AM PDT > In the English version the menu is Tools > Options > OpenOffice.org >
thanks Michele
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| [discuss] Proposal for a New OpenOffice.org Art Project Posted: 21 Jul 2007 03:39 PM PDT Hi Alexandro,
okay, I see the problem. :-)
As far as I got, you got some sort of approval from most of the people,
that taking a second approach to initiate art as a separate project
could be an idea, am I right? IIRC, Louis also shared that position?
I don't know how to establish a new project, but in my opinion, there
are two questions we should ask:
- Who will coordinate all of that (some sort of Lead/Co-Lead, so to
say)? Are you willing to get involved in that?
- What timeframe do you plan?
Florian
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| [discuss] can't get installed Posted: 19 Jul 2007 03:29 PM PDT This is a standard warning from XP (MS) for software from any vendor not =
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| [discuss] AA dumps Open Office, buys Microsof? Posted: 19 Jul 2007 08:50 AM PDT Kay Ramme - Sun Germany - Hamburg wrote:
Since I didn't bookmark them, I'm not going to spend then
fifteen or so hours required to find them on the wiki and
OOo website.
If you read my first message in this thread, it asked if you
could find the roadmap for OOo 4.0 on either the wiki, or
the main website. Look for that, and you'll probably
stumble across all of the other invalid roadmaps.
The only way that will be fixed is if Sun is fired.
If you are not a Sun employee you will not get commit access
to the main branch of OOo?
DO you realize that Sun has deliberately rejected
contributions to OOo that would have improved its
operability for some individuals?
Do you realize that Sun has rejected source code that would
have improved the functionality of OOo?
Because it extends much deeper than using sub-pages.
The sub pages are not findable by those who do not know that
they exist.
This is more akin to the model presented by Catastrophe Theory.
Thanks for demonstrating my point that the current system is
fatally flawed.
Yet another demonstration of how flawed the current
organization scheme is.
xan
jonathon
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| [discuss] AA dumps Open Off Posted: 19 Jul 2007 12:26 AM PDT Lars Noodén wrote:
I am hoping that this project can open up other applications when the
pro-Outlook people do what ever they can to get people to drop
Thunderbird or other mail apps.
http://openchange.org/
A change in format could well kill email for non-windows users in our
organization.
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Due to the move to Exchange Server,
anything that is a priority, please phone.
Robin Laing
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| [discuss] Can anyone buy an extra chair for SUN/IBM? Posted: 18 Jul 2007 04:21 PM PDT An article on the spanish news log (Barra Punto) mentions on how microso=
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kick out IBM and Sun from the ISO voting process. The article mentions =
that the reason why IBM and Sun couldn't participate was because the lac=
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of space in the room.
http://barrapunto.com/article.pl?sid=3D07/07/17/0752256&from=3Drss
Although is reffered by the portuguese blog at blogger:
http://abretesw.blogspot.com/2007/07/sun-microsystems-sem-espao-na.html
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| [discuss] AA dumps Open Office, buys Posted: 18 Jul 2007 10:56 AM PDT M. Fioretti wrote:
Which was my main motivation in moving to FOSS back in the late 90's.
Personally, I do not find it undervalued, but I do find it a paradox in
the context of MS.
No. I can't stand it. However, I seem to observe that MS boosters in
various so-called IT depts absolutely love poking and prodding the same
bugs again and again.
One can make a strong case that one of the main reasons Novell Netware
lost marketshare to MS in the late 90's was that Netware more or less
ran by itself and needed little or no attention. Often leaving no
ongoing technical crises to keep staff on.
Hmm. I was thinking the exact opposite. Based on my observations in
institutions and businesses that *do not* use software as anything much
more than a glorified typewriter or calculator MS is used not because it
increases productivity, but rather the opposite. The more a department
depends on computers for work and communication, the more burden it
becomes. In otherwords, it's a way of throwing sand in the gears.
Which is fine. However, at the same time they spend countless hours
paying overtime for something that never quite works.
In contrast, using FOSS or even a hybrid like OS X allows the machines
to be installed and forgotten, thus permitting everyone to get back to
work.
-Lars
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| [discuss] OpenOffice being sold on eBay Posted: 17 Jul 2007 11:13 AM PDT marie kavadias wrote:
Free can mean one of two things:
* Libre:
* Gratis;
1: Libre
The Free Software Foundation has defined "Libre Software"
as that which meets the Four Freedoms.
* The freedom to run the program, for any purpose (freedom 0).
* The freedom to study how the program works, and adapt it
to your needs (freedom 1). Access to the source code is a
precondition for this.
* The freedom to redistribute copies so you can help your
neighbour (freedom 2).
* The freedom to improve the program, and release your
improvements to the public, so that the whole community
benefits (freedom 3). Access to the source code is a
precondition for this.
Debian-Legal, to determine whether or not software meets
_The Debian Free Software Guidelines_, has devised the
following tests:
* "The Desert Island Test". Imagine a castaway on a desert
island with a solar-powered computer with an Internet
connection that can't upload. This would make it impossible
to fulfil any requirement to make changes publicly available
or to send patches to some particular place. This holds even
if such requirements are only upon request, as the castaway
might be able to receive messages but be unable to send
them. To be free, software must be modifiable by this
unfortunate castaway, who must also be able to legally share
modifications with friends on the island.
* "The Dissident Test". Consider a dissident in a
totalitarian state who wishes to share a modified bit of
software with fellow dissidents, but does not wish to reveal
the identity of the modifier, or directly reveal the
modifications themselves, or even possession of the program,
to the government. Any requirement for sending source
modifications to anyone other than the recipient of the
modified binary in fact, any forced distribution at all,
beyond giving source to those who receive a copy of the
binary would put the dissident in danger. For Debian to
consider software Free it must not require any such excess
distribution.
* "The Tentacles of Evil Test". Imagine that the author is
hired by a large evil corporation and, now in their thrall,
attempts to do the worst to the users of the program: to
make their lives miserable, to make them stop using the
program, to expose them to legal liability, to make the
program non-free, to discover their secrets, etc. The same
can happen to a corporation bought out by a larger
corporation bent on destroying free software in order to
maintain its monopoly and extend its evil empire. The
license cannot allow even the author to take away the
required freedoms.
Some people who work with content have added the following
test:
* DRM Dave's Hardware Platform:
Can Bob & Alice upload non-DRM content?
Can Bob & Alice download non-DRM content?
Can Bob & Alice download DRM content?
Can Bob & Alice upload third party DRM content?
Can Bob & Alice download third party non-DRM content?
Can Bob & Alice play first party non-DRM content?
Can Bob & Alice play third party non-DRM content?
Can Bob & Alice play third party DRM content?
If all of those conditions are met, then it is Libre.
2: Gratis
Whilst software that is Libre can be distributed Gratis,
there is no requirement to do so. A major issue with FLOSS
is the creation of a viable revenue stream through product
sales. The person you sell FLOSS to, can turn around and
burn a million CDs, either selling them for whatever price
they so desire, or just giving them away.
OOo is distributed under the GNU LESSER GENERAL PUBLIC
LICENSE Version 2.1, February 1999.
As such, it meets the requirement of Libre.
You can download OOo from
http://download.openoffice.org/index.html.
* There are vendors who will charge for downloading the
program from their website;
* There are vendors who will charge for the CD or DVD;
* There are vendors who will charge a per seat license fee;
How much you pay has no bearing on the amount, or type of
support you receive. I've seen CD vendors charge $0.99 and
provide one hour telephone support. I've seen CD vendors
charge $500.00 and provide no support at all.
TANSTAAFL: There is the implication with FLOSS that one will
support the community. The Debian Social Contract is the
best known of the formally defined "contracts".
3: Resources
The following URLs provide additional information:
* http://www.openoffice.org/FAQs/faq-licensing.html
* http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html
xan
jonathon
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| [discuss] spyware Posted: 14 Jul 2007 08:22 PM PDT On Sat, 14 Jul 2007, dyck wrote:
To simply ask a vendor if there is any spyware in the product is naive in
the extreme. What do you suppose the answer would be? Yes? I don't think
so. Would you ask a used car salesman whether he was taking advantage of
you?
The advantage to using open source software is that you or someone
knowledgeable about programming can check the source code and verify that
there is no malware present.
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"If at first you do succeed, try not to
look astonished."
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| [discuss] downloading Posted: 12 Jul 2007 05:02 PM PDT PS: try using a different mirror, if one is posing particular problems
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| [discuss] I need Windows shortcut keys on my Mac Posted: 08 Jul 2007 02:04 PM PDT On Sun, 08 Jul 2007 13:16:33 -0500, Don Baker <net>
wrote:
Hi Don, remember you can costumize your shortcuts and save that
configuration. You just neecd to adjust it the way you want it.
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