|   [discuss] Accessibility and OpenOffice.org 2.3.0     Posted: 09 Oct 2007 01:27 PM PDT Yasemin,
 FYI - ZoomText is also a Screen Reader since version 7.x (current is
 9.1), and we had some good collaboration with them when implementing AT
 support in OOo.
 
 Malte.
 
 Yasemin Acur wrote, On 10/10/07 18:59:
 
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    |   [discuss] Openoffice vs MS office     Posted: 09 Oct 2007 12:46 PM PDT Dear Cor,
 Yes I have got one more response ( from Paul ).
 Thanks to him and to you.
 I appreciate your mail very much, it is very kindly.
 The information/links here below and the attachments from your second mail
 are usefull for us.
 As I said before, I was happy with that( links + attachments ). I was
 surprised with your sentence
 "Since I am a marketing contact for the Netherlands, and our country is
 pretty small, Rotterdam is not that far for me ;-)
 If your group thinks it is usefull, I could come along to give a
 presentation."
 
 VERY IMPRESSIVE.
 
 I will discuss this with my teammembers and with the teacher.
 
 As answer to your question if I have installed openoffice. YES, I have
 openoffice for U3 at home. I can open your documents.
 
 Cor, can you send me company names that are using openoffice?
 I want to ask them to share their experience. ( sure if it will not a
 problem for you or for your company )
 
 Best Regards,
 Sinan Tuncyurek
 
 
 
 
 
 
 -----Original Message-----
 From: Cor Nouws [mailto:nl]
 Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2007 10:46 PM
 To: openoffice.org
 Cc: org; org; org;
 Sinan Tuncyurek
 Subject: Re: [discuss] Openoffice vs MS office
 
 Dear mr / mrs. Tuncyurek, Hello Sinan,
 
 Sinan Tuncyurek wrote on 09-10-07 20:17:
 
 
 Thanks for writing.
 I think the marketing address  is most appropriate for your request.
 You did send your request to mailing lists. (See [1])
 This means that probably many readers from the lists will send you their
 ideas and information.
 
 
 I've some links. Not very recent, but still it is usefull information:
 http://www.informationweek.com/story/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=29100064
 http://software.newsforge.com/software/05/06/14/2137222.shtml?tid=152&tid=93
 http://www.openoffice.org/nonav/issues/showattachment.cgi/21562/OfficeSuiteC
 ompare.pdf
 
 In general, one can say that MsOffice has more functionality. But for
 most of the times, that is in the category bells and wistless.
 Some functionality that is not in OpenOffice.org it self, can be found
 in other open source products.
 And the bottom line is, that OpenOffice.org is very well suited to work
 effectively and consistent with files and data.
 
 I do have some documents with more details, English and Dutch, that I
 will send you off-list.
 
 needed
 
 OpenOffice.org is free, free to use and to share as much as you like.
 
 because
 
 Since I am a marketing contact for the Netherlands, and our country is
 pretty small, Rotterdam is not that far for me ;-)
 If your group thinks it is usefull, I could come along to give a
 presentation.
 
 
 I hope the information is usefull and wishyou every succes with the HRO
 project.
 Pls don't hesitate to ask details on specific questions. (One list
 (email address) will do then, of course)
 
 Kindest regards,
 
 Cor
 
 
 [1] http://support.openoffice.org/project/www/mail_list.html
 
 
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 Cor Nouws
 Arnhem - Netherlands
 nl.OpenOffice.org - marketing contact
 
 
 
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    |   [discuss] Feature Request!     Posted: 08 Oct 2007 02:42 PM PDT Hi com,
 
 You are not: see Issue 5736 [1].
 
 Consider using some keywords in the subject like "Create a Chart in a
 New Sheet", because "feature request" does not tell anybody what you
 want without opening the mail.
 
 Also, for feature requests it makes sense to consult Issuezilla first,
 and if you don't find the issue you have in mind, submit it. You can
 find queries for the Chart on the Wiki pages [2]. I must admit that this
 particular issue does not appear there, because it is in component Calc.
 
 Regards,
 -Bjoern
 
 [1] http://graphics.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=5736
 [2] http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Chart2#Testing
 
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    |   [discuss] Abotu your webpage and Openoffice programs     Posted: 07 Oct 2007 03:05 PM PDT ------=_Part_26_30309675.1191860648722Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
 Content-Disposition: inline
 
 Hello,
 
 Thank you from help. I did not mean Word Completion but rather the help of
 automatically changing the looks of document like spacing or automatic
 numering. They never use the same font I use so that is problem. That is
 what I wanted to switch off...
 
 Jani
 
 
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    |   [discuss] Question: How to add an invisible format to OpenOfficeWriter?     Posted: 06 Oct 2007 08:09 AM PDT On 6 Oct 2007 at 17:01, Schuster Gerhard wrote:
 
 
 I already sent a reply to this. In case you did not see it, here is
 what I wrote:
 
 You can create an 'invisible' Format with the 'hidden' box
 checked in 'Font effects'.
 
 Type in the text you want to hide, select it, then apply the
 'invisible' format.  You have to do it that way as I don't think you
 can type anything with a hidden format selected.
 
 I have tried this and can confim that the hidden text is in the
 XML.
 
 Tony Pursell
 OO.o User
 
 PS: The org list is a better place to post
 questions like this.
 
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    |   [discuss] Issues with autocorrect in Calc     Posted: 05 Oct 2007 04:07 PM PDT On Sat, 06 Oct 2007 14:25:04 -0500, Cor Nouws <nl> wrote:
 
 Yes by changing the default parameter they broke the whole function.
 
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 CoLeader of OpenOffice.org ES
 http://es.openoffice.org
 
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    |   [discuss] Change case feature     Posted: 04 Oct 2007 08:23 PM PDT On 2007.10.05. 09:26, Dave Barton wrote:....
 
 actually, in this case he has the functionality already coded, at least
 that's how i understood it.
 if so, don't forget to attach the proposed patch or plugin to the issue
 - and maybe ask for assistance on org
 
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    |   [discuss] *.docx File Format     Posted: 04 Oct 2007 08:20 PM PDT OpenDocument is usable by many application, including MS Office.  It is*possible* to use it with *any* application.  So, best bet is to stick
 with OpenDocument, it's what is established in industry, and ignore docx.
 
 There are OpenDocument plugins for MS Office:
 http://www.sun.com/software/star/odf_plugin/
 
 and a viewer for Firefox
 https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/1888
 
 and a double-handful of double-handfuls of applications which support it:
 http://www.opendocumentfellowship.org/applications
 
 Look at how business improved with the advent of the WWW, which was
 based on a simple, but universal file format, and an open transfer
 protocol.
 
 Isn't it likely that a universal office format will also produce some
 benefit?
 
 Malte Timmermann wrote:
 
 Not much.  Despite its bulk it does not contain more than a fraction of
 the information needed for a third party implementation of the
 specification.
 
 Primarily it seems that the bulk, combined with the exceedingly short
 examination time the ISO committee has for evaluation, was intended to
 ensure that any YES or ABSTAIN votes would be based purely on political
 motives.
 
 On the technical side, there are serious discrepancies between DIS 29500
 (the part that *has* been published) and .docx (what's actually used)
 Trying to implement .docx will be impossible, not just because of the
 size and incompleteness, but also from the fact that it's a moving target.
 
 See also:
 http://holloway.co.nz/can-other-vendors-implement-ooxml.html
 
 There are also a lot of licensing problems that cannot be overcome in
 many trade zones such as North, Central and South America, Australia,
 and New Zealand.  Thus, even if the specification were technically
 complete, it would not be likely for third parties in those trade zones
 to overcome the licensing problems.
 
 Lastly, the parts that are published are really poorly put together.
 IMHO it looks like OOXML was slapped together in the 11th hour to try to
 compete with OpenDocument when it became evident that ODF would get full
 industry backing.
 
 Here are the initial complaints against the public parts of .docx:
 http://www.incits.org/DIS29500/DIS29500.htm
 
 Then the second round complaints against the public parts of .docx:
 http://www.jtc1sc34.org/repository/0904.zip
 
 Also, note that 1) there were *no* negative comments on OpenDocument
 during the corresponding ISO work several years ago, 2) there seem to
 have been "irregularities" in each of the ISO countries indicating that
 not only would OOXML go against ISO charter, it is not of standards
 quality and needs means outside the law to progress.
 
 The whole purpose of docx / DIS29500 appears, from its effects, to be to
 slow the uptake of a universal office format and to confuse the market.
 
 Regards,
 -Lars
 
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    |   [discuss] Lotus Smartsuite incorporation     Posted: 03 Oct 2007 10:14 AM PDT Hi AdrianDidn't really want to load up with more memory. StarOffice calls for 1 gig
 minimum memory while I can run OpenOffice at half that.
 
 Gerald
 
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 Cc: <net>
 Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 1:41 AM
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    |   [discuss] OpenOffice 2.3.0     Posted: 03 Oct 2007 10:07 AM PDT Adrian Try wrote:
 
 No, the Google version doesn't need an activation key.
 
 BTW: also the version downloadable from Sun doesn't need one. It's a
 *licence* key, not an *activation* key. You will notice the difference
 once you use a program with "activation" and want to install it on a
 different machine when the software vendor went out of business. Then
 your "activated" program will quit working but the one with the valid
 registration key will still work once you entered the key.
 
 Ciao,
 Mathias
 
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 OpenOffice.org Engineering at Sun: http://blogs.sun.com/GullFOSS
 Please don't reply to "de".
 I use it for the OOo lists and only rarely read other mails sent to it.
 
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    |   [discuss] Project Management Program     Posted: 02 Oct 2007 02:10 PM PDT Actually this is a review that nicely mentions OpenOffice and OpenProjhttp://www.product-reviews.net/2007/08/18/openproj-by-projity-the-next-step-in-the-open-source-solution/
 
 
 
 Marc O'Brien wrote:
 
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    |   [discuss] sharepoint     Posted: 02 Oct 2007 02:08 PM PDT Hi Gregory
 
 I have to use Sharepoint 2003 at work. It is possible, but fiddly, to use
 OpenOffice.org to edit documents stored in the portal.
 
 Opening the document should be OK. To save the document, you'll have to
 save locally (say to the desktop), then re-add the document to Sharepoint.
 
 There are some Sharepoint alternatives being created (most notably
 O3Spaces, http://www.o3spaces.com/).
 
 I hope this helps.
 
 Adrian
 www.tryanotherangle.org
 
 
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    |   [discuss] Request: Focus on "Custom Animation" in impress.     Posted: 30 Sep 2007 10:16 AM PDT ------=_Part_3871_15639519.1191248782985Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
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 Hi all,
 
 Some comments in line.
 
 [snip!]
 
 
 
 I haven't had the chance to try PP2007 but I worked a lot with MSO 2003 and
 in my opinion OOo is a much better presentation creator.
 
 Firstly OOo is not a MSO clone, so we don't add things simply
 
 
 
 
 
 I think I agree with Mark on the last two points although I have sympathy
 for what Graham says. OOo should not be a clone of MSO, but should implement
 functionalities that people find useful. Like Graham I tend to use
 animations very sparingly and I agree that steal take time that should be
 used instead to work on the actual contents.
 On the other hand, a) this is just my style; b) I have come across
 presentations where the animations were instrumental to understanding the
 slide.
 In my opinion the areas that need improvement are:
 1) capability of adding animations to the slide master (e.g. to make the
 bullet points of a text box appear one by one
 2) (similar to 1) ability of copying/pasting the animations
 3) have at least a rudimental control on the timing of an animation.
 4) better manipulation of multimedia
 4) have a full timeline for animations
 
 Note on point 3). At present you can only specify slow/medium/fast, however
 if you import a presentation made with MS PowerPoint the timing of effects
 is preserved, therefore it is probably just a matter of enabling the GUI.
 Note on point 4) maybe this capability exists already, but I haven't still
 managed to install jmf on my Ubuntu box :-)
 
 
 
 There is an issue on the animation timing which I raised (username:
 michelezarri) which includes an example of custom. If I find 5 minutes I
 will post the link.
 
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    |   [discuss] Eraser for draw     Posted: 29 Sep 2007 11:35 PM PDT Thanks Dave!As a user I often forget to educate myself on things. Thanks for the links.
 
 Dennis Murdock
 
 ps. I'll get more familiar with where my mail should go.  :)
 
 Dave Barton wrote:
 
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    |   [discuss] Suggestion about including photos     Posted: 27 Sep 2007 01:18 PM PDT I genuinely wonder how much benefit picture compresion will achieve.With various formats the results would differ.
 JPEG - depends on method but could result in a reduced picture quality
 if added JPEG compression was applied.
 GIF - No size reduction is likely.
 PNG - No size reduction is likely.
 BMP - Who still uses it when PNG is available?
 TIFF - Has a compression method but not all tiff's are compressed.
 SVG - Tiny saves from this raster format anyway.
 What format are standard Office clipart pics?
 
 I also wonder if Office XML format compresses the pictures independantly
 or just zips them up with everything else.
 
 On Thu, 27 Sep 2007 15:33:12 -0700
 Mike White wrote:
 
 
 
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    |   [discuss] And choose a format other than OpenOffice.org,     Posted: 27 Sep 2007 01:15 PM PDT maybe he clicked the send button in a hurry...
 On 9/28/07, Paul <com> wrote:
 
 
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    |   [discuss] Open Office.org ver 2.3 download     Posted: 26 Sep 2007 01:20 PM PDT I think you can download it from free software download such asfilehippo.com
 
 Thx
 
 
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    |   [discuss] Clean up of terminology for Impress     Posted: 26 Sep 2007 02:29 AM PDT Hello,
 Michele wrote:
 
 a very good start. The application help authors are on your side! At
 least that's true for me.
 For the problem that sometimes the term "page" is used in Impress, where
 the term "slide" would be more applicable, see this issue:
 http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=40813
 (Of course there are pages in Impress, too, when you print a slide on to
 a page of paper)
 For your question about slide backgrounds, see the application help of
 Impress. Enter the index words "backgrounds; slides" and "backgrounds;
 changing" to find some thoughts about the many methods of coloring the
 backgrounds of slides.
 
 Uwe
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 org  -  Technical Writer
 StarOffice - Sun Microsystems, Inc. - Hamburg, Germany
 http://www.sun.com/staroffice
 http://documentation.openoffice.org/online_help/index.html
 http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Category:OnlineHelp
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    |   [discuss] Organizer     Posted: 24 Sep 2007 01:37 PM PDT --NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_5629_1190724188_0Content-Type: text/plain
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 Who are you?Iam the last one.
 
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    |   [discuss] Icelandic!     Posted: 24 Sep 2007 01:37 PM PDT Dear Friends,Spellchecker....?
 Icelandic...great language and spoken by many ...also outside of Iceland.
 In my 'magazine' WhiteRockReporter.com I found that there is no room for
 coverage of neither Swedish or Icelandic and the website is not about
 languages but does communicate in English and when audio arrives on my pages
 it will be in other languages depending who is being interviewed..
 Thanks for the info Alda and Laurent.
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 Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2007 3:45 AM
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    |   [discuss] pyuno on MS Windows     Posted: 23 Sep 2007 02:46 PM PDT On Montag 24 September 2007, Alexandro Colorado wrote: 
 The problem is on Windows only. Once I install OOO.org I can't import pyuno
 because it is not in the python path. If I add ooo/program to the path I can
 do
 
 Traceback (most recent call last):
 File "<stdin>", line 1, in ?
 File "/Applications/OpenOffice.org
 2.0.app/Contents/openoffice.org2.0/program/uno.py", line 37, in ?
 import pyuno
 ImportError: No module named pyuno
 
 which means python finds uno but not pyuno (pyuno.dylib).
 
 Actually the above is copied from Mac outout but it's the same on MS Windows
 
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 Leipzig / Germany
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    |   [discuss] Simple Idea     Posted: 20 Sep 2007 03:55 PM PDT to Sandon Adamson,et al: I do not why, but the page is displayed in thecenter on my 17 in. monitor. Is that just a fluke? :-\
 
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    |   [discuss] Competing with MS Office     Posted: 20 Sep 2007 03:55 PM PDT On 9/24/07, Robin Laing <gc.ca> wrote:
 
 not really. umm. i would say that BasKet comes closer to OneNote. and
 KDE has VYM already.
 the focus is not on mindmapping. mindmapping is about collecting ideas
 and organizing them by linking them in some logical order. BasKet and
 OneNote are containers or canvasses of digital content, like text,
 image, multimedia. its like having the goodies in the basKet to help
 you in your digital content assembly/creation. the artifacts in the
 basket or a notebook are organized in sections to help you locate them
 in context to the project for which you have searched them
 out/collected.
 
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