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[discuss] Accessibility and OpenOffice.org 2.3.0

Posted: 09 Oct 2007 01:27 PM PDT

Yasemin,

FYI - ZoomText is also a Screen Reader since version 7.x (current is
9.1), and we had some good collaboration with them when implementing AT
support in OOo.

Malte.

Yasemin Acur wrote, On 10/10/07 18:59: 

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[discuss] Openoffice vs MS office

Posted: 09 Oct 2007 12:46 PM PDT

Dear Cor,

Yes I have got one more response ( from Paul ).
Thanks to him and to you.
I appreciate your mail very much, it is very kindly.
The information/links here below and the attachments from your second mail
are usefull for us.
As I said before, I was happy with that( links + attachments ). I was
surprised with your sentence
"Since I am a marketing contact for the Netherlands, and our country is
pretty small, Rotterdam is not that far for me ;-)
If your group thinks it is usefull, I could come along to give a
presentation."

VERY IMPRESSIVE.

I will discuss this with my teammembers and with the teacher.

As answer to your question if I have installed openoffice. YES, I have
openoffice for U3 at home. I can open your documents.

Cor, can you send me company names that are using openoffice?
I want to ask them to share their experience. ( sure if it will not a
problem for you or for your company )

Best Regards,
Sinan Tuncyurek






-----Original Message-----
From: Cor Nouws [mailto:nl]
Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2007 10:46 PM
To: openoffice.org
Cc: org; org; org;
Sinan Tuncyurek
Subject: Re: [discuss] Openoffice vs MS office

Dear mr / mrs. Tuncyurek, Hello Sinan,

Sinan Tuncyurek wrote on 09-10-07 20:17:
 

Thanks for writing.
I think the marketing address is most appropriate for your request.
You did send your request to mailing lists. (See [1])
This means that probably many readers from the lists will send you their
ideas and information.
 

I've some links. Not very recent, but still it is usefull information:
http://www.informationweek.com/story/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=29100064
http://software.newsforge.com/software/05/06/14/2137222.shtml?tid=152&tid=93
http://www.openoffice.org/nonav/issues/showattachment.cgi/21562/OfficeSuiteC
ompare.pdf

In general, one can say that MsOffice has more functionality. But for
most of the times, that is in the category bells and wistless.
Some functionality that is not in OpenOffice.org it self, can be found
in other open source products.
And the bottom line is, that OpenOffice.org is very well suited to work
effectively and consistent with files and data.

I do have some documents with more details, English and Dutch, that I
will send you off-list.
 
needed 

OpenOffice.org is free, free to use and to share as much as you like.
 
because 

Since I am a marketing contact for the Netherlands, and our country is
pretty small, Rotterdam is not that far for me ;-)
If your group thinks it is usefull, I could come along to give a
presentation.
 

I hope the information is usefull and wishyou every succes with the HRO
project.
Pls don't hesitate to ask details on specific questions. (One list
(email address) will do then, of course)

Kindest regards,

Cor


[1] http://support.openoffice.org/project/www/mail_list.html


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[discuss] Feature Request!

Posted: 08 Oct 2007 02:42 PM PDT

Hi com,
 

You are not: see Issue 5736 [1].

Consider using some keywords in the subject like "Create a Chart in a
New Sheet", because "feature request" does not tell anybody what you
want without opening the mail.

Also, for feature requests it makes sense to consult Issuezilla first,
and if you don't find the issue you have in mind, submit it. You can
find queries for the Chart on the Wiki pages [2]. I must admit that this
particular issue does not appear there, because it is in component Calc.

Regards,
-Bjoern

[1] http://graphics.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=5736
[2] http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Chart2#Testing

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[discuss] Abotu your webpage and Openoffice programs

Posted: 07 Oct 2007 03:05 PM PDT

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Hello,

Thank you from help. I did not mean Word Completion but rather the help of
automatically changing the looks of document like spacing or automatic
numering. They never use the same font I use so that is problem. That is
what I wanted to switch off...

Jani


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[discuss] Question: How to add an invisible format to OpenOfficeWriter?

Posted: 06 Oct 2007 08:09 AM PDT

On 6 Oct 2007 at 17:01, Schuster Gerhard wrote:

 

I already sent a reply to this. In case you did not see it, here is
what I wrote:

You can create an 'invisible' Format with the 'hidden' box
checked in 'Font effects'.

Type in the text you want to hide, select it, then apply the
'invisible' format. You have to do it that way as I don't think you
can type anything with a hidden format selected.

I have tried this and can confim that the hidden text is in the
XML.

Tony Pursell
OO.o User

PS: The org list is a better place to post
questions like this.

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[discuss] Issues with autocorrect in Calc

Posted: 05 Oct 2007 04:07 PM PDT

On Sat, 06 Oct 2007 14:25:04 -0500, Cor Nouws <nl> wrote:
 

Yes by changing the default parameter they broke the whole function.

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[discuss] Change case feature

Posted: 04 Oct 2007 08:23 PM PDT

On 2007.10.05. 09:26, Dave Barton wrote:
.... 

actually, in this case he has the functionality already coded, at least
that's how i understood it.
if so, don't forget to attach the proposed patch or plugin to the issue
- and maybe ask for assistance on org
 
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[discuss] *.docx File Format

Posted: 04 Oct 2007 08:20 PM PDT

OpenDocument is usable by many application, including MS Office. It is
*possible* to use it with *any* application. So, best bet is to stick
with OpenDocument, it's what is established in industry, and ignore docx.

There are OpenDocument plugins for MS Office:
http://www.sun.com/software/star/odf_plugin/

and a viewer for Firefox
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/1888

and a double-handful of double-handfuls of applications which support it:
http://www.opendocumentfellowship.org/applications

Look at how business improved with the advent of the WWW, which was
based on a simple, but universal file format, and an open transfer
protocol.

Isn't it likely that a universal office format will also produce some
benefit?

Malte Timmermann wrote: 

Not much. Despite its bulk it does not contain more than a fraction of
the information needed for a third party implementation of the
specification.

Primarily it seems that the bulk, combined with the exceedingly short
examination time the ISO committee has for evaluation, was intended to
ensure that any YES or ABSTAIN votes would be based purely on political
motives.

On the technical side, there are serious discrepancies between DIS 29500
(the part that *has* been published) and .docx (what's actually used)
Trying to implement .docx will be impossible, not just because of the
size and incompleteness, but also from the fact that it's a moving target.

See also:
http://holloway.co.nz/can-other-vendors-implement-ooxml.html

There are also a lot of licensing problems that cannot be overcome in
many trade zones such as North, Central and South America, Australia,
and New Zealand. Thus, even if the specification were technically
complete, it would not be likely for third parties in those trade zones
to overcome the licensing problems.

Lastly, the parts that are published are really poorly put together.
IMHO it looks like OOXML was slapped together in the 11th hour to try to
compete with OpenDocument when it became evident that ODF would get full
industry backing.

Here are the initial complaints against the public parts of .docx:
http://www.incits.org/DIS29500/DIS29500.htm

Then the second round complaints against the public parts of .docx:
http://www.jtc1sc34.org/repository/0904.zip

Also, note that 1) there were *no* negative comments on OpenDocument
during the corresponding ISO work several years ago, 2) there seem to
have been "irregularities" in each of the ISO countries indicating that
not only would OOXML go against ISO charter, it is not of standards
quality and needs means outside the law to progress.

The whole purpose of docx / DIS29500 appears, from its effects, to be to
slow the uptake of a universal office format and to confuse the market.

Regards,
-Lars

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[discuss] Lotus Smartsuite incorporation

Posted: 03 Oct 2007 10:14 AM PDT

Hi Adrian
Didn't really want to load up with more memory. StarOffice calls for 1 gig
minimum memory while I can run OpenOffice at half that.

Gerald

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To: <org>
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Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 1:41 AM
Subject: Re: [discuss] Lotus Smartsuite incorporation

 

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[discuss] OpenOffice 2.3.0

Posted: 03 Oct 2007 10:07 AM PDT

Adrian Try wrote:
 

No, the Google version doesn't need an activation key.

BTW: also the version downloadable from Sun doesn't need one. It's a
*licence* key, not an *activation* key. You will notice the difference
once you use a program with "activation" and want to install it on a
different machine when the software vendor went out of business. Then
your "activated" program will quit working but the one with the valid
registration key will still work once you entered the key.

Ciao,
Mathias

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Please don't reply to "de".
I use it for the OOo lists and only rarely read other mails sent to it.

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[discuss] Project Management Program

Posted: 02 Oct 2007 02:10 PM PDT

Actually this is a review that nicely mentions OpenOffice and OpenProj
http://www.product-reviews.net/2007/08/18/openproj-by-projity-the-next-step-in-the-open-source-solution/



Marc O'Brien wrote: 

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[discuss] sharepoint

Posted: 02 Oct 2007 02:08 PM PDT

Hi Gregory
 

I have to use Sharepoint 2003 at work. It is possible, but fiddly, to use
OpenOffice.org to edit documents stored in the portal.

Opening the document should be OK. To save the document, you'll have to
save locally (say to the desktop), then re-add the document to Sharepoint.

There are some Sharepoint alternatives being created (most notably
O3Spaces, http://www.o3spaces.com/).

I hope this helps.

Adrian
www.tryanotherangle.org


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[discuss] Request: Focus on "Custom Animation" in impress.

Posted: 30 Sep 2007 10:16 AM PDT

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Hi all,

Some comments in line.

[snip!]
 


I haven't had the chance to try PP2007 but I worked a lot with MSO 2003 and
in my opinion OOo is a much better presentation creator.

Firstly OOo is not a MSO clone, so we don't add things simply 


 


I think I agree with Mark on the last two points although I have sympathy
for what Graham says. OOo should not be a clone of MSO, but should implement
functionalities that people find useful. Like Graham I tend to use
animations very sparingly and I agree that steal take time that should be
used instead to work on the actual contents.
On the other hand, a) this is just my style; b) I have come across
presentations where the animations were instrumental to understanding the
slide.
In my opinion the areas that need improvement are:
1) capability of adding animations to the slide master (e.g. to make the
bullet points of a text box appear one by one
2) (similar to 1) ability of copying/pasting the animations
3) have at least a rudimental control on the timing of an animation.
4) better manipulation of multimedia
4) have a full timeline for animations

Note on point 3). At present you can only specify slow/medium/fast, however
if you import a presentation made with MS PowerPoint the timing of effects
is preserved, therefore it is probably just a matter of enabling the GUI.
Note on point 4) maybe this capability exists already, but I haven't still
managed to install jmf on my Ubuntu box :-)
 


There is an issue on the animation timing which I raised (username:
michelezarri) which includes an example of custom. If I find 5 minutes I
will post the link.

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[discuss] Eraser for draw

Posted: 29 Sep 2007 11:35 PM PDT

Thanks Dave!
As a user I often forget to educate myself on things. Thanks for the links.

Dennis Murdock

ps. I'll get more familiar with where my mail should go. :)

Dave Barton wrote: 

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[discuss] Suggestion about including photos

Posted: 27 Sep 2007 01:18 PM PDT

I genuinely wonder how much benefit picture compresion will achieve.
With various formats the results would differ.
JPEG - depends on method but could result in a reduced picture quality
if added JPEG compression was applied.
GIF - No size reduction is likely.
PNG - No size reduction is likely.
BMP - Who still uses it when PNG is available?
TIFF - Has a compression method but not all tiff's are compressed.
SVG - Tiny saves from this raster format anyway.
What format are standard Office clipart pics?

I also wonder if Office XML format compresses the pictures independantly
or just zips them up with everything else.

On Thu, 27 Sep 2007 15:33:12 -0700
Mike White wrote:
 


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[discuss] And choose a format other than OpenOffice.org,

Posted: 27 Sep 2007 01:15 PM PDT

maybe he clicked the send button in a hurry...

On 9/28/07, Paul <com> wrote: 


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[discuss] Open Office.org ver 2.3 download

Posted: 26 Sep 2007 01:20 PM PDT

I think you can download it from free software download such as
filehippo.com

Thx

[discuss] Clean up of terminology for Impress

Posted: 26 Sep 2007 02:29 AM PDT

Hello,

Michele wrote: 

a very good start. The application help authors are on your side! At
least that's true for me.
For the problem that sometimes the term "page" is used in Impress, where
the term "slide" would be more applicable, see this issue:
http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=40813
(Of course there are pages in Impress, too, when you print a slide on to
a page of paper)
For your question about slide backgrounds, see the application help of
Impress. Enter the index words "backgrounds; slides" and "backgrounds;
changing" to find some thoughts about the many methods of coloring the
backgrounds of slides.

Uwe
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StarOffice - Sun Microsystems, Inc. - Hamburg, Germany
http://www.sun.com/staroffice
http://documentation.openoffice.org/online_help/index.html
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Category:OnlineHelp
http://blogs.sun.com/oootnt

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[discuss] Organizer

Posted: 24 Sep 2007 01:37 PM PDT

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[discuss] Icelandic!

Posted: 24 Sep 2007 01:37 PM PDT

Dear Friends,
Spellchecker....?
Icelandic...great language and spoken by many ...also outside of Iceland.
In my 'magazine' WhiteRockReporter.com I found that there is no room for
coverage of neither Swedish or Icelandic and the website is not about
languages but does communicate in English and when audio arrives on my pages
it will be in other languages depending who is being interviewed..
Thanks for the info Alda and Laurent.
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[discuss] pyuno on MS Windows

Posted: 23 Sep 2007 02:46 PM PDT

On Montag 24 September 2007, Alexandro Colorado wrote: 

The problem is on Windows only. Once I install OOO.org I can't import pyuno
because it is not in the python path. If I add ooo/program to the path I can
do
 
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "<stdin>", line 1, in ?
File "/Applications/OpenOffice.org
2.0.app/Contents/openoffice.org2.0/program/uno.py", line 37, in ?
import pyuno
ImportError: No module named pyuno

which means python finds uno but not pyuno (pyuno.dylib).

Actually the above is copied from Mac outout but it's the same on MS Windows

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[discuss] Simple Idea

Posted: 20 Sep 2007 03:55 PM PDT

to Sandon Adamson,et al: I do not why, but the page is displayed in the
center on my 17 in. monitor. Is that just a fluke? :-\

Sandon Adamson wrote: 

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[discuss] Competing with MS Office

Posted: 20 Sep 2007 03:55 PM PDT

On 9/24/07, Robin Laing <gc.ca> wrote:
 

not really. umm. i would say that BasKet comes closer to OneNote. and
KDE has VYM already.
the focus is not on mindmapping. mindmapping is about collecting ideas
and organizing them by linking them in some logical order. BasKet and
OneNote are containers or canvasses of digital content, like text,
image, multimedia. its like having the goodies in the basKet to help
you in your digital content assembly/creation. the artifacts in the
basket or a notebook are organized in sections to help you locate them
in context to the project for which you have searched them
out/collected.

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