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New Office (2007) menus -- can we change them back to exactly CLASSIC menus? - Microsoft Office forums

New Office (2007) menus -- can we change them back to exactly CLASSIC menus?

Posted: 05 Feb 2007 11:41 AM PST

There are a lot of things wrong with the menus & toolbars UI for Office.
If you are interested in reading the background on the Ribbon UI, see
http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/10/09/58. It's an index to the blog posts
of the PM in charge of the Ribbon UI. His blog gives a lot of the
background of the Ribbon and talks a lot about its design. It makes for
quite some interesting reading.
 
All the keyboard shortcuts from 2003 (including the menu shortcuts)
should work without a problem. They are not displayed, but they lead to
the same functionality.
 
Back in beta 1, the Office apps were crashing all the time. It's quite
hard to learn a new UI when you have a crash every few minutes then file
a bug for it, etc.
 
Read the reasoning behind the Ribbon UI. In short, MS designed a new UI
because they didn't know anymore how to put all the new 2007 features in
a reasonable way into the old one.
BTW, you can create a resemblance of the old UI on the Ribbon. You'd
have to use RibbonX for it (the new customization model), it will take
quite a bit to do it and it won't look exactly like 2003, but it can be
done.

Patrick Schmid [OneNote MVP]
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Office 2003 - starting from scratch

Posted: 04 Feb 2007 10:23 AM PST

If you have some sort of proof that you own a retail (not OEM) license of
Office 2003, you can call Microsoft for a new product key. You will need the
CDs tho.

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;823570

--

JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]

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How to ask a question
http://support.microsoft.com/KB/555375




"MAEO" <microsoft.com> wrote in message
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How to uninstall Microsoft Office Activation Assistant (2007)?

Posted: 03 Feb 2007 09:19 AM PST

Thanks for replying... I can't understand how non-technical people deal with
all this. For example the pre-installed trial version of Symantec Security
Suite is exactly like the mob; when I tried to uninstall it, it told me I
shouln't, I should pay up, when I insisted it told me it wouldn't protect me,
I'd be unsafe, and suggested I not use the internet at all if I continue.
Vista is supposed to be the most secure Windows, yet I have this preinstalled
bully making me feel like it's going to punish me if I don't pay up. Heck
maybe it has, by making my system unstable? I wouldn't be surprised.

The other crazy thing is that the manufacturer not only loaded up tons of,
obviously paid for, third party software but also it's own crapware that is
eating up gobs of RAM, slowing everything down and making Vista completly
unreliable (although I can't tell if it's Vista, third party/OEM software or
drivers). I'm giving up... I'd have to spend many more days trying to
cleanup manually all that was pre-loaded, messing with the registry, startup,
cleaning system files. Since I already paid for Vista Premium with my new
notebook, I'm going to try and track down a full copy of Vista Premium retail
so I can borrow it, make a copy, and install it on the reformatted HD using
the key that was supplied with my notebook... I hope that works! If not, I'm
returning it... this whole experience has really left a bad taste in my mouth.

However, I'll point out that Microsoft continues to write bad software,
including the Office team that installs by integrating itself into the OS,
droping files all over the system and leaving 1001 entries in the registry
(it should install itself in it's own discreet directory and stay there, and
uninstall clean); and writing programs like the Activation Assitant that will
not uninstall itself... it's a sad state of affairs.

"CASellars" wrote:
 

Registry Cleaner? - after Trial version, before retail box 2007 of

Posted: 03 Feb 2007 07:53 AM PST

After reading the warning, I didn't run it, just uninstalled the trial
version, and installed the box version. I had no problems.
--
J. Raines


"Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]" wrote:
 

Office 2007 beta uninstall

Posted: 03 Feb 2007 02:28 AM PST

There isn't a tool for uninstalling the Office 2007 betas as there were a number of them going on (including the sister product, MS
Expression web) at the same time and there is a large number of possible combinations that could be in play.

When the beta isn't removed through normal procedures, add-remove programs, it's often because the installation was already broken.
If you review the Knowledge Base articles for steps to remove a broken 'regular' Office installation manually they're not far
different. Broken installations come from adding other software or add-ins over time or using utilities such as computer 'speedup'
or 'registry cleaner' ones that are 'helping'.

There is a risk to relying on time limited beta software, although it is easy to get used to using it and forgetting it's 'test
software'.

For many people the basic steps in the MSKB article, removing all prior betas and related add-ins, from Add/Remove Programs in the
Windows control panel, do work to have a clean environment to install the release version of MS Office 2007. It is the quality of
operation that is one of the prime reasons for starting clean with release software rather than focusing on 'upgrading' a beta/test
software.

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<<"ilv-m" <microsoft.com> wrote in message news:com...
Since this is the Office installation topic, would you kindly post the answer
here? This is not a 'misc' type of issue, but a show-stopper for us too.
We're glad to see that so many others want this Office 2007 installer defect
fixed so that hopefully Microsoft will either do that, or provide an
automated clean-up tool to deal with the problem.

The extremely time-consuming manual steps described in the KB's about this
problem are ridiculous. The people with the info to write the steps into a KB
should have incorporated the clean-up in the Office 2007 RTM installer, or
provided an Office 2007 beta wipe-down tool to make sure that Microsoft's
best and brightest customers are not angered by this kind of sloppiness.
Business is being lost as we and our customers wait for a reasonable
solution. The competition for a botched Office 2007 release is to do nothing
but stand on Office 2003.

If we were flying in Microsoft-designed aircraft, with such poor quality control, we would probably all be dead. >>
--

Bob Buckland ?:-)
MS Office System Products MVP

*Courtesy is not expensive and can pay big dividends*

Will Retail box product key activate trial version of Office 2007

Posted: 02 Feb 2007 06:50 PM PST

Milly -

The more I read your responses, the more I respect you. I've seen others
telling people they don't need to dump the trial. I recommend they do and
was beginning to feel like I was singing a solo. Thank you for making the
"Uninstall the trial first" song a duet. :-)

--

JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]

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How to ask a question
http://support.microsoft.com/KB/555375




"Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]"
<org> wrote in message
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Uninstalling the trial version will remove any leftover vestiges of the
timebomb. Always uninstall the trial (user data is never touched or
removed) and install the retail version you purchased.

--
Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]

Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. All
unsolicited mail sent to my personal account will be deleted without
reading.

After furious head scratching, hisplaceresort asked:

| I downloaded Office 2007 Professional awhile back. My trial is about
| to expire, and I just bought the retail box version upgrade.
|
| I have just gotten everything like I want it... settings, email
| accounts in Outlook, autocorrect entries in my normal.dotx and
| normalemail.dotx, etc.
|
| I REALLY do not want to have to uninstall the trial and reinstall
| from the box.
|
| Can I just use the box product key to activate this trial version???
|
| I noticed that uninstall was suggested to another person who had a
| student version, but...
|
| Someone please tell me yes... :-)

Vista Business and Office 2003 compatibility

Posted: 02 Feb 2007 02:55 PM PST

Thanks for the follow up Garrett. Funny your accepting EULA in safe mode
worked and accepting it normally didin't.

CH


"Garrett" <microsoft.com> wrote in message
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Rebooting Office Issues

Posted: 02 Feb 2007 02:12 PM PST

I'm not sure what a win update is but I bougt a cable to connect a phone to
my computer and it wasn't supported by Nokia. I have rebooted and reinstalled
Office now and everything is fixed and fine!! Thanks heaps.

"DL" wrote:
 

Outlook did not install with the Standard Office suite 2007.

Posted: 02 Feb 2007 02:00 PM PST

That should be answered by someone with more knowledge than me.... but:

I do know that all your Outlook stuff is kept in a file that ends with a
..PST designation. So if you do a search (*.PST) you should find it. It's
probably called outlook.pst but do a wildcard search incase it's something
else. It will be PST though.

That contains everything: e-mails, contacts, folders etc. It'll probably be
quite large (mine is 194 megs!)

Save a copy of it somewhere before you delete your stuff, as well as a note
of what folder it was in, because chances are that it will be in the same
folder in the new installation. You would then only have to copy that file
back into the new folder.

C.


"Tirado" <com> wrote in message
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Unable to remove beta version of Office 2007

Posted: 02 Feb 2007 09:07 AM PST

There were hundreds of thousands of people who used the Beta. A backup is
always helpful before you install something onto an OS like Beta office.
That MSKB will get the Beta out. Backup the reg keys by exporting each one,
than when you have Beta Office out and Office 2007 if that's what you want
to install in, restore the 4th reg subkey in the MSKB as I've said by
clicking on the reg export and your Add/Remove will be back to normal.

CH

"ukguy" <microsoft.com> wrote in message
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Installation Stalls out

Posted: 02 Feb 2007 07:00 AM PST

I received this for my new laptop through my office's home use program. I
purchased the license for about $20. All I need is to be able to create, read
and edit word, excel, and power point documents, so I saw no need to pay out
the extra cash for the more up to date software.

In anticipation of further questions, my system does meet the minimum
requirements, but has a tendency to have this same problem with standard
updates, downloads and installations (Java plug ins, Windows Updates,
Security Updates, Norton/Symantec Updates, Adobe Acrobat Reader), so I think
the problem has more to do with my configuration than faulty software and
disks.

2007 Spell Check Not working

Posted: 02 Feb 2007 06:17 AM PST

I just did. If I log out and log in as any other user the spell check works
fine. It's only when I'm logged in as myself that there is a problem. I was
logged in as myself when I installed the software.

"Patrick Schmid [MVP]" <mvps.org> wrote in message
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Failed to uninstall Office professional 2007 Beta

Posted: 02 Feb 2007 01:46 AM PST

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/928218/en-us

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Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]

Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. All
unsolicited mail sent to my personal account will be deleted without
reading.

After furious head scratching, Jeremy Cox asked:

| I cannot remove remnants of the Office 2007 Beta
| when I go to add/remove programs - the Office 2007 items are all
| 'MUI' files and have no change/remove button next to them.
|
| In my furstration I am going to get a full Officce 2007 professional
| set - but when I come to install it, will these MUI files prevent me
| from installing?
|
| I tried downloading the trial version but got an error message as it
| said first i had to uninstall the beta version.
|
| Any thoughts?

Do I need to save all my documents befor installing Office Pro 200

Posted: 01 Feb 2007 09:30 PM PST

Hi Bob,

Thanks for the informatio. That has been a great help. I appreciate your
taking the time to answer my neopohyte questions.

Thanks again,
MG
--
Pax et Bonum


"Bob Buckland ?:-)" wrote:
 

Office 2007 deployment on Terminal Server 2003 R2

Posted: 01 Feb 2007 04:03 PM PST

Thanks, but that page is the root of the resource kit documentation which
I've already been through and which leads to the TBD link I referenced.
Still no info specifically about Terminal Server deployment.

Karim

"Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]" wrote:
 

Office 2007 Add-Remove Features Broken

Posted: 01 Feb 2007 11:41 AM PST

Solved. I simply went through the appropriate .Msi modules in my folder,
Right Clicked each one and took "Repair". Once that was done, the add
remove features came back on line.

"R. McCarty" <com> wrote in message news:... 

Office 2000 problems after hard drive upgrade...

Posted: 01 Feb 2007 09:41 AM PST

Thanks for the advice, everyone. I'll post back after I've completed the
operation. Hopefully, I'll have good news to report.


"JoAnn Paules [MVP]" <com> wrote in message
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Moving Office 2003 to another PC

Posted: 01 Feb 2007 09:24 AM PST

I will give it a shot. Thanks

"JoAnn Paules [MVP]" wrote:
 

less strain for my eyesight ... How can I do this with a normal theme?

Posted: 01 Feb 2007 08:14 AM PST

> That's why I said VGA mode. You'll need to run with 640x480, or use Vista 

Nah.....that is not correct.. you can have 256 at any resolution on XP. I
must say that you indeed were right!
With 256 colors the Office 2007 interface reverts to a classic like
appearance.

For those who are reading this thread and want to do the same, you can
download QuickRes plus from greenparrots (free edition) that lets you go to
256 colors on XP

download here>>> ttp://www.greenparrots.com/aqr.html
SCROLL TO THE BOTTOM TO FIND THE 100% FREE EDITION!

When you install and run it, an icon appears in the tray, right click it and
select the color/resolution combination you want

-K


"Patrick Schmid [MVP]" <mvps.org> wrote in message
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Reinstalling Office 2003

Posted: 31 Jan 2007 05:07 PM PST

How to order a replacement CD for Microsoft Office
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;302822

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JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]

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"RickT" <microsoft.com> wrote in message
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how to install scanner

Posted: 31 Jan 2007 10:20 AM PST

This newsgroup is for questions about Microsoft Office, so your question
is completely off-topic here, but see
http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/softwareCategory?product=57854&lc=en&cc=us&dlc=en& lang=en&cc=us
..

kicosmestiza wrote:
 

Unsupported install paths

Posted: 31 Jan 2007 05:42 AM PST


HI Bob, thanks for your reply

I am using "\\server\share\Office12\setup.exe /config
\\server\share\Office12\Enterprice.WW\Config.xml

and the only thing I have done is to create the .msp in
\\server\share\Office12\updates and \\server\share is definetly on a non
removeable disk.


"Bob Buckland ?:-)" wrote: