|   [discuss] Will Bug 48822 be worked on before the next major     Posted: 21 Nov 2007 12:11 PM PST On 2007-11-21 20:31:47, jonathon wrote: 
 Perhaps what Mike means is that while the ISO standard exists, his=20
 company has a large number of documents in which people have used=20
 whatever format they liked (randomly?) inputting the date info, and=20
 that OOo displays the dates differently.
 
 He might also find that such documents written in MSO 98 professional=20
 (or earlier) sometimes exhibit a similar problem when brought up in MSO=20
 2003 on XP. :-/
 
 Just my $0.02 worth (actually less than that due to inflation)
 - Bill
 
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    |   [discuss] Will Bug 48822 be worked on before the next major release     Posted: 21 Nov 2007 09:08 AM PST RANT WARNING
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 Champion, Patrick wrote:
 
 
 Actually many people try to claim that, i don't. I claim it is better in
 many ways. If it trieds to duplicate Microsoft office it would always be
 an also-ran.
 
 
 And being aware of your immediate problem i suggested a solution to
 that.
 
 
 First of all, i am not OpenOffice, as far as i am aware openoffice is a
 company in holland that makes the excellent bluefish html editor.
 Neither am i an employee of OpenOffice.org or even a representative of
 OpenOffice.org. I am a bloke on the end of a computer that saw you had a
 problem (you asked for help on an open mailing list that anyone can
 join) and suggested an alternative that you may not have previously
 thought of. As a web author the way i see it the sooner that all
 companies realise they are working in the global village environment and
 start talking the global language to each other the better. There, you
 made me explain my intentions. Are they as you read them?
 
 As for the rest of your sentence. I honestly don't know whos pulling a
 Cartman here ("Screw you guys, i'm going home").
 
 
 It is not an "in one's face" bug. It is actually the first time i have
 heard of it on this list, and i have been _contributing_ to
 this list, somewhat sporadically, for a few of years now. Not only
 that, but i see the issue only has one vote, and that one vote (probably
 not yours) is hardly likely to get a fix timetabled real soon. The issue
 IS however maked P3, which means:
 "P3 marks non-trivial problems which probably affect a noticeable number
 of users. Issues with this priority must be fixed before the target
 release (see Target milestone) Not fixing them for the target release
 must be justified by a superordinate rule."
 
 Your company has made the decision to adopt a proprietary closed source
 office suite. The save format of this office suite is also closed. The
 only way OpenOffice.org has any compatability at all with .DOC format is
 by reverse engineering it. I could make an arguement that would hold
 water in a court of law that says the problem is either Microsofts or
 "Yours" because you were foolish enough to adopt a closed environment in
 the first instance!
 
 If your company and others was prepared to front up even some of the
 money they have paid for Microsoft Office licences over the last 5 years
 you could probably get anything fixed you damn well like. All i have
 seen at present is a whinge followed by escalating abuse.
 
 Did you actually expect me to answer saying "Yes sir based on your
 contribution of, let's see, NOTHING, we will fix this for you straight
 away". Stop throwing the teddy out of the crib.
 
 
 
 --
 Michael
 
 All shall be well, and all shall be well, and all manner of things shall
 be well
 
 - Julian of Norwich 1342 - 1416
 
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    |   [discuss] definitely need to have feature     Posted: 20 Nov 2007 09:02 PM PST On 21 Nov 2007 at 12:48, Guy Voets wrote:
 
 
 I believe he means an incremental search, such as emacs and firefox
 offer.  Rather than typing in a complete search string, and hitting
 'go' (or whatever), the search starts as soon as the first character is
 typed into the search box, and proceeds incrementally as more of the
 search string is input (and also back-tracks if it's edited).
 
 Much nicer to use once you're used to it.
 
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 various incoming sites blocked because of spam; see
 http://www.scottsonline.org.uk for a list and openpgp crypto key
 (key fingerprint 2ACC 9F21 5103 F68C 7C32 9EA8 C949 81E1 31C9 1364)
 org.uk    Mike Scott, Harlow, Essex, England
 
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    |   [discuss] good suggestions for OO.o     Posted: 20 Nov 2007 09:02 PM PST Alexandro Colorado wrote:
 Yes, OOo supports WebDAV (loading and saving, no locking) but currently
 only via http. As fas as I know https support will be added in 2.4.
 
 You must use the OOo internal file dialog to work without remote
 folders, the file dialogs of the OS might hide the remote locations from
 OOo.
 
 Ciao,
 Mathias
 
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    |   [discuss] Chemical drawing addon     Posted: 17 Nov 2007 03:09 AM PST Rob wrote:
 
 I thought that the French project (http://ooo.hg.free.fr/  ) had
 created one, but I can't find it there.  :(
 
 
 In theory, one could create a gallery of chemical drawings, and
 rearrange them as needed.   I'm not sure how well that will work in
 practice.
 
 It probably would be easier to rewrite one of the existing FLOSS
 chemical drawing programs as a Draw macro.
 
 xan
 
 jonathon
 
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    |   [discuss] need to have feature     Posted: 17 Nov 2007 03:04 AM PST 
 jonathon wrote:
 
 The biggest problem I have found with the Thunderbird/OOo
 integration is that they can not interactively use the same phone
 book.  OOo can interactively work with the Windows address book
 but not the Thunderbird address book. Thunderbird requires that
 the data be imported into its' own address book.  This requires
 the user to keep two address books up to date.  My other main
 gripe is a minor detail; when printing the address book, neither
 Windows not Thunderbird will allow the output to be formatted so
 that the data for each contact is kept together instead of
 running over onto the next page.  Tighter integration between the
 two products should be able to eliminate both of these problems.
 
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    |   [discuss] RFE--printing envelopes     Posted: 16 Nov 2007 12:06 AM PST William Case wrote:
 
 If it was easy to define what is the non-intuitive part of OOo's
 envelope functionality and how to solve that I would be glad to do it.
 
 But my experience with envelopes is that basically using this function
 is not hard to understand, but the problems start when you have to print
 it. If you are lucky and your printer does what OOo thinks it should do
 envelopes are an easy task.
 
 
 What frustrates me is that each time I helped someone with envelopes and
 asked him how we could change the function to make it easier, nobody was
 able to give me a hint. So I don't have high hopes that this will be
 different in case of those people who complained in issues, mails and
 forum postings over the years.
 
 Nevertheless I started to collect the relevant issues some time ago but
 was disrupted by some more urgent tasks. As I also don't participate in
 Web forums I would be very pleased if someone else could create a list
 of complaints and problems (what was found irritating, how often, how
 many votes and duplicates, which improvement suggestions etc.) so that
 we could try to consolidate that into a single issue.
 
 I tend to believe that the problem isn't the UI but the printing.
 
 
 This would be my approach also though experience tells us that in case
 you don't have a superior idea it's better not to be too different from
 Word. Repelling former Word users without attracting others by superior
 (not only different) design is a bad strategy. Or in a single sentence:
 try to be better if you can, but don't try to be different "just because".
 
 Ciao,
 Mathias
 
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    |   [discuss] calc - conditional formatting of a range     Posted: 14 Nov 2007 06:04 AM PST -------------------------------1195576032Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
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 Attn Daniel
 
 I believe this must be meant for someone  else Daniel.  My problem with
 Openoffice was that I could not find how to  install it.  Last evening I spent over
 an hour on it and then decided to  give up on it all together.
 
 Regards
 Diana
 
 
 
 In a message dated 20/11/2007 16:17:34 GMT Standard Time,
 com writes:
 
 net schrieb:
 
 Hi,
 
 formula:  =($A1=YEAR(TODAY()))*(MONTH("1"&$B1)=MONTH(TODAY()  )).
 formula  appropriate for all marked cells, but returned
 
 It is important to check the cursor position  inside the selection. You
 have to enter the relative addresses in your  formula according to this
 cursor position. If you select A1:B12 with mouse  or keyboard, starting
 from A1, the cursor will usually be located in cell  B12. So, the address
 $A1 entered in cell B12 will result in "column A, 11  rows to top" (row
 12 to row 1). This results in an invalid reference in  the rows 1 to 11.
 
 To solve your problem: You can move the cell cursor  with the TAB key to
 cell A1 before you open the dialog, or you can enter  the formula using
 "$A12" and "$B12" instead of $A1 and $B1, when the  cursor is located in B12.
 
 Regards
 Daniel
 
 
 PS: Please  consider to use the openoffice.org mailing list for
 questions  about Calc, as they may be missed too easily  here.
 
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    |   [discuss] add a soft in openoffice     Posted: 10 Nov 2007 11:54 PM PST On 2007-11-11 2:58 AM, Alexandro Colorado wrote: 
 Also worth serious evaluation is Mylyn, an Eclipse plug-in for project
 management that is free and is looking really good lately!
 
 kazar
 
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    |   [discuss] 3D Circle in Drawing tool     Posted: 10 Nov 2007 11:54 PM PST Russell Aspinwall írta: I have checked:
 http://visibleearth.nasa.gov/view_rec.php?id=2430
 It is better...
 
 Another interesting:
 http://visibleearth.nasa.gov/view_rec.php?id=1438
 
 
 KAMI
 
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