|   A Problem using yum on Linux Fedora Core 4     Posted: 13 Oct 2005 08:19 AM PDT Enrique, I located and installed the proper python rpm's, and now yumworks like a charm. Thanks very much for your help!
 
 Best,
 WMD
 
 --
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 Delta Iota Chapter Advisor, Phi Kappa Sigma at Marist College
 "I'm beginning to sober up, and you're scaring me!" (Tom Servo, MST3K)
 
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    |   Why is Firefox printing in Linux so slow?     Posted: 13 Oct 2005 07:50 AM PDT On Thu, 13 Oct 2005 07:50:45 -0700, usenet.1.massysett wrote:
 
 I would first check that ALL your printer, CUPS and Firefox config files
 are correct.  I would access CUPS through its native HTML interface
 (http://localhost:631) instead of KDE's printer tools, just to be sure.
 Also, check that Firefox's Postscript output isn't being sent to
 Ghostscript or some printer filters. The output should go directly to the
 printer, unchanged.
 
 As a last resort, uninstall your printer and, then, reinstall it using
 CUPS' interface.  Maybe, KDE's got a bug.
 
 Stefan
 
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    |   FC4, Serial ATA, and RAID     Posted: 12 Oct 2005 09:48 PM PDT On Thu, 13 Oct 2005 06:48:41 +0200, Screech <three> wrote: 
 The FC4 iso had kernel-2.6.11-1.1369_FC4.i?86.rpm
 The current kernel is  2.6.13-1.1526_FC4
 
 
 If the numbers are right, they translate to
 
 status=0x51 DriveReady SeekComplete Error
 error=0x40  Uncorrectable ECC error
 
 I believe the latter means data corruption on the disk or at a low level.
 
 
 Sounds a bit disturbing, I should perhaps check a diff between the
 2.6.11 and 2.6.13 kernels to see if this is justified (but I don't
 have the time this week).  It may well be as already the atapi
 interface implements a packet interface modeled on the scsi protocol,
 and I would guess that serial ata  takes this evolution even further.
 
 
 I don't really know anythig about what is failing, but I wonder why you
 are placing the two disks on the same ide controller, and leaving the
 other controller to run just the DVD player?
 
 If no-one else know anything better to try, you could try to regroup
 the disks, placing, say, the hdd on the other controller, making it hdb.
 If there is something flakey in the ide controller hardware, perhaps
 duplicating all disk write requests on the same controller is begging
 to trigger the failure potentials.
 
 (But I should also say that I don't know hwo much physical reality there
 is behind the interface offered by the chipset that perhaps makes two
 "virtual controllers" out of one, or even out of four.)
 
 -Enrique
 
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    |   Can't install Debian 3.1 on HP Pavilion 7955 computer     Posted: 12 Oct 2005 10:47 AM PDT First of all, thanks to those who have provided assistance. Others havebeen less than helpful.
 
 The reason I think Debian should have a tutorial on this is because
 most PC users use Windows, and Windows XP is currently the newest
 Windows version, so it could only help in getting more people to start
 using Linux instead. Of course, the tutorial is not necessary, but I
 didn't even find a notice explaining how burning a bootable CD is
 different from burning the type of CD that most users commonly burn.
 
 <i>Oh, come on, the issues here are so obvious only after you acquire
 a number of concepts.</i>
 
 That might be true, but only assuming that there is a guide
 <i>explaining</i> these concepts.
 
 <i>"Cease messing up".</i>
 
 That's very helpful...
 
 
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    |   Bad Motherboard? Upgrade?     Posted: 12 Oct 2005 05:06 AM PDT > What is that monitor program?
 http://mbm.livewiredev.com/
 
 The program in question is currently listed at the top of the page,
 select a mirror to the right of it to download.
 
 Cheers
 
 
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    |   bypassing hwclock?     Posted: 11 Oct 2005 10:44 PM PDT On 2005-10-13, John Hasler <gt.org> wrote:
 
 
 I suppose, unless you have one of those Dallas chips with the clock
 incorporated into the battery pack.
 
 --
 
 John (dhs.org)
 
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    |   Rar files     Posted: 11 Oct 2005 11:33 AM PDT Manta a écrit : 
 Hello,
 
 - rar for linux from http://www.rarlab.com/download.htm to compile or
 from http://rpm.pbone.net <= not last version (command-line but
 necessary for the GUI)
 
 - file-roller as GUI for extract (never succeed compress-split with GUI,
 use command-line), file-roller is the gnome equivalent for ark for kde.
 
 - unrar from http://rpm.pbone.net
 
 Bye.
 Rv
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    |   Grub Network Bootdisk - where from ?     Posted: 11 Oct 2005 03:26 AM PDT On Wed, 12 Oct 2005 09:20:21 +0200, hermann <net> wrote:
 
 In order not to leave that part of the question unanswered, Grub must
 be on an rpm package, and I would guess that package is called
 grub-0.95...something.rpm. It should be on your installation CD.
 Almost certainly it is already installed.
 
 Next, how to make a grub floppy.  Doing the command "info grub", pressing
 TAB tree times (places the cursor on "Installation"), then pressgin enter,
 pressing TAB three more times (Creating a GRUB boot floppy) and Enter:
 
 
 # cd /usr/share/grub/i386-pc
 # dd if=stage1 of=/dev/fd0 bs=512 count=1
 1+0 records in
 1+0 records out
 # dd if=stage2 of=/dev/fd0 bs=512 seek=1
 153+1 records in
 153+1 records out
 #
 
 This is still not the "network boot" thing you want, I just quote this
 to get those questions out of the way.
 
 
 Sounds a bit strange to me, is this so that you could have something
 different happen when you don't insert the floppy?  Or, are we dealing
 with a computer where you are somehow prevented from installing in the
 disk?
 
 I have never tried the network support facilities in Grub, but I have seen
 something about that in the info command output.
 
 Yes, I just checked, and it says:
 
 Although GRUB is a disk-based boot loader, it does provide network
 support. To use the network support, you need to enable at least one
 network driver in the GRUB build process.
 
 That brings up the question if Suse has enabled any network drivers in their
 grub rpm.  If not, you will have to compile your own rpm.
 
 The procedure is this: Download the grub *source* rpm from your distribution
 (perhaps you have a distro CD with all the source rpms).
 
 Install it the normal way, rpm -i grub-whatever.src.rpm. Since I use
 Fedora, which is a child of Redhat, there is a "redhat" in the following
 paths, yours are probably a little different.
 
 Edit the file /usr/src/redhat/SPECS/grub.spec.
 Search for the line
 
 %configure --sbindir=/sbin --disable-auto-linux-mem-opt
 
 (Well, that is the redhat/fedora version of that line, yours may
 be different.)  Now add one option to that line, e.g.
 
 %configure --sbindir=/sbin --disable-auto-linux-mem-opt --enable-3c509
 
 (how to see the possible options -  below) Save the file and build
 the rpm like this:
 
 rpmbuild -bb /...../grub.spec
 
 You will find the result in /usr/src/.../RPMS/i386/grub....rpm or something
 similar.
 
 This is how simple it could be in an almost perfect world.  In reality you
 will have to install a couple of other rpms to satisfy the "build-require"
 statements in the grub.spec file.
 
 Issue the rpmbuild command above, and you will be told.  Or look inside the
 spec file.
 
 In order to find the possible options,
 
 rpmbuild -bp /..../grub.spec
 
 This will unpack the tarball(s) and apply all the patches your distro
 applies. Then find /..../BUILD/grub-0.95/netboot/README.netboot.
 Notice that rpmbuild usually starts every build by deleting the build
 source tree, and repeating the steps from there. I mention this in case
 you find you have to modify something, you must then create a patch
 file and add it to the spec file to have it reapplied when the source
 is prepared again.
 
 
 I don't know SuSE, there are others here who do.  I would guess that
 the distribution has a ready-made solution for diskless workstations
 or for bootp use, but I don't know much about it.
 
 -Enrique
 
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    |   dual boot problem...     Posted: 10 Oct 2005 12:47 AM PDT com wrote:
 
 Good, I'm glad you fixed the problem and your welcome.
 
 
 
 Start a new thread and let us know about the modem many are supported.
 
 Vist; http://linmodems.org/ and download/use the scanModem tool.
 
 
 --
 "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
 safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."     -- B. Franklin, 1759
 
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    |   Wireless networking/Mepis/OS question     Posted: 09 Oct 2005 08:05 PM PDT Bill Marcum wrote:
 
 Thanks. I'll keep that in mind if I ever run into it again. (See below)
 
 
 
 Okay. I did a google search yesterday for "0000:00:07.1" which gave me
 the hint to use lspci like you said. And it turns out to be the IDE
 interface on my machine as well. And the hd works, BUT it makes me
 wonder since I just had to replace the hd because the last one failed.
 Hmmh...
 
 
 
 To tell you the truth, I didn't really like Mepis anyway -- can't tell
 you why other than I have some familiarity with Fedora and so I know
 where the config files are and just generally how to do stuff with it.
 So I loaded FC4 on it.
 
 For whatever reason I don't get the "video mode" problem with grub. I
 don't recall if Mepis was using lilo...
 
 Still struggling with the wireless, though. Dl'd the ndiswrapper pkg
 plus a modified kernel (16K vs. 4K stacks) with another machine and
 loaded them up via sneakernet. Followed the instructions in the
 ndiswrapper wiki and have gotten as far as being able to scan and find
 the AP correctly. Wireless tools is the wrong release (17 vs 18) so I
 hope I can manually get this thing working well enough to do a system
 update. The odyssey continues...
 
 Anyway, thanks for the reply,
 
 Rod
 
 
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    |   Kernel 2.6 mouse dead     Posted: 09 Oct 2005 05:22 PM PDT 
 J.O. Aho <net> says...
 
 From http://www.slackware.com/ page is
 
 "Slackware 10.2 includes the Linux 2.4.31 kernel, with Linux
 2.6.13 available in the /testing directory. For the first time,
 a 2.6 kernel with support for SCSI, RAID, and SATA is offered
 as a boot option in the installer (called "test26.s")."
 
 test26.s is on Slackware 10.2 distribution disk.  Slackware
 10.2 users are told to select test26.s to have Slackware 10.2
 with 2.6.13 Kernel.  Is not test26.s on Slackware 10.2
 distribution disk same mouse enablings as bare.i on same disk?
 I installed exactly same including format two times except
 kernel different. NO other changes!
 
 Please to look at
 http://www.tux.org/pub/distributions/slackware/slackware-10.2/kernels/test26.s/config
 has
 CONFIG_INPUT_MOUSEDEV=y
 CONFIG_INPUT_MOUSEDEV_PSAUX=y
 CONFIG_INPUT_MOUSE=y
 CONFIG_MOUSE_PS2=m
 
 All same except CONFIG_MOUSE_PS2=m is not CONFIG_MOUSE_PS2=y
 but also has
 CONFIG_MOUSE_SERIAL=m
 CONFIG_MOUSE_INPORT=m
 CONFIG_MOUSE_ATIXL=y
 CONFIG_MOUSE_LOGIBM=m
 CONFIG_MOUSE_PC110PAD=m
 which I think are menu choices.  I menu choose PS/2 and also
 menu choose Intellimouse once for testing.  Both menu choices
 both mice work with bare.i not with test26.s  My mice port is
 normal PS/2, not USB.
 
 Other Slackware 10.2 users using test26.s with no mouse problem
 so I think mouse enablings are on.
 
 Sorry if my English is bad.
 
 
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    |   test26.s mouse problem     Posted: 09 Oct 2005 03:47 PM PDT On 10/10/05 14:07, reclusive monkey wrote: 
 PS/2
 --
 A computer is like an air conditioner,
 it stops working when you open Windows.
 Registered Linux user #337974  <http://counter.li.org/>
 
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    |   no option to boot FC4 after install     Posted: 09 Oct 2005 10:43 AM PDT On Sun, 9 Oct 2005 18:43:58 +0100 in comp.os.linux.setup, Richard OHora favored us with...
 
 Did you install GRUB or another dual-boot manager? If so, check your
 disk to find where it was installed, and set that partition active.
 (You can do this from an Administrator account in Wondows XP by
 running diskmgmt.msc.)
 
 I had this problem with FC3 -- the install went fine but it didn't
 set the active partition to the one where the boot loader is. I did
 that manually, then rebooted and the GRUB loader came up.
 
 --
 Stan Brown, Oak Road Systems, Tompkins County, New York, USA
 http://OakRoadSystems.com/
 "You find yourself amusing, Blackadder."
 "I try not to fly in the face of public opinion."
 
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    |   How do I configure drivers in Debian     Posted: 09 Oct 2005 05:30 AM PDT From experience (and I've used various versions of Unix since ca. 1978and Windows versions since 2.x in about 1982--as a result, personally,
 I'd rather use Linux):
 
 I just tried to install Windows XP (of an unknown vintage) and Linux
 (RedHat version 9, from the same source, i.e. these were the versions
 used at my workplace) on an IBM a30p laptop.  Not the latest model,
 but not ancient either.  The laptop came to me running w2k.  I did not
 upgrade the w2k to xp, but instead installed xp from scratch.
 
 The Windows XP version installed "correctly" first time and it wasn't
 orginally configured for that version. The only difficulty was the
 laptop defaulted to a 640x800 resolution until I went to the IBM
 website and downloaded a new driver.
 
 The Linux version installed and had the same 640x800 resolution
 problem.  Of course, going to the IBM website didn't resulting in
 finding a new Linux driver.  With some help, I did find the
 appropriate XFree86 config file and inserted the "1600x1200" line in
 the correct place and that was good.  Next, I had to resolve a mouse
 cproblem, which required downloading a whole new version of Linux,
 CentOS 4.1 was recommended to me.  That took a considerable amount of
 time and effort.  Of course, the new version of Linux broke some of
 the shell scripts I use to invoke emacs, so that the shell windows
 inside of emacs didn't show prompts.
 
 I don't yet have the built in wireless talking to Linux.  It worked
 with XP, the first time I booted it.  I haven't started trying to
 tackle that problem because I can plug the laptop into the wired net
 at home, so the wireless was a lower priority item.  Moreover, even
 when I have the wireless working under Linux, I won't be able to use
 it that way at work, because the wireless VPN software I need to get
 into the corporate internet is a Windows only program.
 
 So, don't use me as your expert if you want the Linux installation to
 be graded as easier.  This wasn't the first that I've done.  I have
 one desktop that has run Redhat 5.0, 5.1, 6.something, 7.2, and 7.3.
 I will upgrade it to CentOS 4.1 also, after I have my laptop running
 as I like.
 
 However, if you want something that works out-of-the-box with minimal
 intervention, my experience is that one has better luck installing
 Windows. I think there is a simple reason for that, every hardware
 vendor ships drivers that work with Windows.  Thus, if your brand x
 hardware device doesn't work, one simply gets the brand x Windows
 driver for it.
 
 You're only in trouble if the vendor stops selling that hardware
 device and a new version of Windows comes out and the old driver isn't
 compatible with the new version.  Then, you are truly out of luck, you
 either have to stay with the old version of Windows forever or buy a
 new hardware device.  That's actually the way they want it too, it
 simply guarantees obsolescence.  That's the price one actually pays
 for using Windows.
 
 However, I'm not sure the Linux story is much better.  I can't count
 the number of times I've had some part of my Unix-Linux/Emacs
 installation switch to something new and incompatible, sh to csh to
 ksh to bash, twm to ctwm to vtwm to fvwm to kde to gnome, lilo to
 grub, sccs to rcs to cvs to subversion, gnu emacs to xemacs, rnews to
 gnus, rmail to vmail.  I know some incarnations of the scripts I used
 to run on Ultrix and SunOS still are runnning on my system, but only
 because I've spent hours over the years dealing with the
 incompatibilities and foibles of the versions they've been ported
 over.  Hmm, the latest version of Linux has changed something about
 the way it writes ext2 file systems and my re-partitioning (Partition
 Magic v 7) software will no longer change partitions on the
 disk--hopefully I can get qtparted to work on them.  Moreover, a lot
 of the hardware I scrapped over the years, *never* worked with any
 Linux version I had.  Maybe if it had, it would still work with Linux
 today, maybe....
 
 If I could have paid L100, i.e. $200 US and have had them install a
 complete working Linux distribution on my laptop where the mouse,
 screen, and wireless all worked (and so did the scripts I've used for
 years so that I wouldn't have to "fix" anything), you bet I would have
 done it.
 
 -Chris
 
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    |   Fedora setup - modem not detected     Posted: 08 Oct 2005 10:53 PM PDT example.tld (Moe Trin) wrote innews:phx.az.us:
 
 
 .....snip...
 
 
 
 Once again many thanks for your help
 
 Alan (another 'old guy' )
 
 
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    |   After slack upgrade fonts too small when print webpage     Posted: 08 Oct 2005 02:10 PM PDT 09 Oct 2005 03:29 UTC, tekla typed: 
 One to subscribe to for Slack questions - alt.os.linux.slackware
 
 Although you'll find Slackware people everywhere :-)
 
 
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    |   Debian bootable on external USB-harddisk     Posted: 08 Oct 2005 07:39 AM PDT Andreas Rittershofer schrieb:
 hi,
 you can try to boot it with help of a RUNT-Linux Boot-Floppy
 whith it, you can boot from any USB-Device (USB-Stick, ...)
 
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    |   RAID chipset SiI680     Posted: 08 Oct 2005 03:28 AM PDT Giampiero Gabbiani <it> did eloquently scribble: 
 Don't know...
 There are some disk throughput tests, like bonnie++ to test access, read,
 write and copy speeds but you'll just be testing the kernel's RAID code
 rather than the controller (which is being used by the kernel as a simple
 IDE). Only windows supports the raid part of the card fully, because the
 manufacturers supplied the driver.
 
 Testing windows running on the raid card vs linux using kernel RAID wouldn't
 be a valid comparison because the test would be mainly windows v linux,
 rather than card vs kernel in that situation...
 Suppose a way to handle the comparison would be to install windows on the
 RAID, run the tests, install it on the card in standard none-raid mode and
 do the tests again, then do the same with linux using standard IDE and
 kernel RAID... see the comparisons side by side...
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    |   Problem with Redhat 9 & XP Pro     Posted: 07 Oct 2005 02:53 PM PDT > I'm having trouble with dual-booting RH 9 & Microsoft XP Pro.  I 
 First, I would avoid reinstalling XP as long as I could, unless you
 have a "ghost" copy of your previous installation, or it was simply a
 vanilla instalation you haven't customized.  If you reinstall XP, you
 may lose your customizations.  Attempting to "repair" it, is less
 likely to have that problem.  However, I would still wait on doing
 that until I exhausted other options.
 
 As to your specific problem, it sounds like you may have changed the
 partitions as you installed RH.  That can cause XP problems,
 specifically if you insert or delete partitions before the XP
 partition.  For example, it may not have been creating the RH
 partition that gave you problems, but deleting the DOS partition that
 is the cause of your woes.  Did XP used to boot through the DOS (FAT I
 presume) partition?
 
 Next, I see you are keeping XP in an extended/logical partition?  Did
 you have it there before you installed RH?  Or, did you move it from a
 primary partition to an extended partition when you installed RH?  If
 you changed it from primary to extended, then I suspect this is the
 cause of your problem.  As far as I know, XP (or any windows variant
 for that matter) likes to have its boot code in a primary partition.
 You can get XP (and the other NT, OS/2 variants) to boot in an
 extended partition if you also have a FAT primary partition to keep
 their boot info in, but you have to set them up that way in the
 beginning.
 
 What I suspect is happening, is that when you tell XP to boot, it
 looks for an appropriate primary partition, finds HD1 which is
 currently empty, but is formatted FAT ans says ah here is my primary
 partition (C: drive) to find my boot info in.  It then, looks for the
 XP installation there and doesn't find it, because the info is in HD5,
 and complains.
 
 If I were in your shoes, and the XP partition used to be a primary
 partition, then I would convert the XP back to a primary partition and
 put HD4 (or HD3 & 4) in the extended partition.  You will find Linux
 much more cooperative about booting while the root directory is not a
 primary partition.
 
 Consider my setup:
 HD1 - a FAT32 w2k partition
 HD2 - a FAT32 w2k partition with also boot files for booting XP out of an extended partition
 HD3 - an NTFS xp partition
 HD4 - an extended partition with the following logicals inside
 HD5 - /boot (ext2) where I keep grub
 HD6 - / (ext2)
 HD7 - /var (ext2)
 HD8 - /tmp (ext2)
 HD9 - linux swap
 HD10 - /usr (ext2)
 HD11 - /home (ext2)
 HD12 - a FAT32 partition for sharing data between the various OS's
 HD13 - another FAT32 partition for sharing data between the various OS's
 HD14 - an NTFS xp partition which boots out of HD2
 HD15 - the "system restore" partition
 
 See, how I have most of the Windows OS's in primary partitions down at
 the bottom--the only exception being HD14, and that boots out of HD2.
 Believe me that makes them much happier about being booted into.
 
 The other major difference between my setup and yours is that I use
 "System Commander" as my boot menu (and that's what in the MBR).
 However, I think either lilo or grub in the MBR will work too.
 Especially, because if I boot the Linux partition (from System
 Commander) and then tell it (grub) to boot one of the Windows
 partitiions, that still works.
 
 Hope this helps,
 -Chris
 
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    |   SSH tunneling of the Oracle Installer     Posted: 07 Oct 2005 09:59 AM PDT Figured out my issue.
 1. I only needed the xdm and xauth rpms installed to tunnel the X
 traffic via ssh
 2. I modified /etc/hosts to include the line
 
 127.0.0.1 localhost.domain localhost
 
 sshd_config was setup properly (I.E. ForwardX11 yes) and once hosts was
 modified every thing worked like a magic cookie! I hate simple
 problems, as they usually take the most time to resolve. Thanks
 everyone for your input!
 
 
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    |   FC4, md raid-1 not started at boot.     Posted: 07 Oct 2005 08:22 AM PDT In comp.os.linux.setup Peter T. Breuer <it.uc3m.es>: 
 
 
 
 Have no problems with it on a few systems, the only problem was
 the initial setup in kickstart. Strange enough, once tried to
 setup FC3 in full softraid, but alas the installer would only
 want to setup an array on the same hd, which doesn't make sense.
 
 This works with RHEL 3 just fine, perhaps their is a reason why
 this feature is missing from Fedora?
 
 Other distro couldn't boot from softraid at all after successfully
 mirroring a running system. So this could explain your paranoia
 about it?  It seems to depend on the distro.
 
 
 
 Lilo, at least the version from RHEL does write stuff on both
 physical disks in software raid1, so you can boot from both, if
 your mobo is capable enough. Think I posted an example recently
 in this "theater".
 
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 mail: echo qr | perl -pe 'y/a-z/n-za-m/'
 #bofh excuse 342: HTTPD Error 4004 : very old Intel cpu -
 insufficient processing power
 
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    |   problem reading loop mounted .iso file on disk, get "Input/output error"     Posted: 06 Oct 2005 10:04 AM PDT I would just like to thank all the people who helpd me get my laptopupgraded.  It is now running CentOS 4.1 and that fixes my "mouse"
 problem, which is how this all started. (Yes, I do have a few minor
 glitches due to things changing (and some of those I have already
 fixed), but all-in-all the process has come to a successful
 conclusion.)  I can now go back to being mostly a Linux user and not a
 system installer.  That makes me happy.
 
 Again, thanks to all.
 -Chris
 
 BTW, anyone who contributed and happens to be in the Boston/Worcester
 area and wants a beer, drop me a line, I will gladly oblidge.
 
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    |   Can't use internal network after dialup modem is used -- get ping: sendto: Operation not permitted     Posted: 05 Oct 2005 05:36 PM PDT On Fri, 07 Oct 2005 19:02:02 +0200, Jean-David Beyer <com> wrote:
 
 If you had nameservers on one of the other "hardware sockets", too bad.
 If your nameserver (named, bind) wants to talk to ns1.google.com, and it
 already knows that ns1.google.com has address 216.239.32.10, then
 it does as I wrote, and leaves to the kernel to figure out how to reach
 216.239.32.10.  The kernel uses the routing table, and finds that with
 the last line in the routing table, the mask is zero, so
 
 (216.239.32.10 & 0.0.0.0) == (0.0.0.0 & 0.0.0.0)
 
 oh, yes, that makes zero on both sides of the equal sign, and yes,
 0 == 0 that is true, this line in the routing table is the one we will
 use. Now, the rest of the line is
 
 0.0.0.0         46.99.491.1     0.0.0.0     UG    0   0   0  ppp0
 
 so the interface is ppp0. Oh, wait, this line has 'G', so we must do
 a little more processing, see if we have a line with 46.99.491.1
 (the gateway) as the "destination" and an 'H' flag (a host route),
 yes we have that, but then again, the interface on that line is "ppp0"
 That settles the question, we have to use the IP of ppp0 as our
 source IP.
 
 It "knows" because it knows what addresses it is trying to reach with
 its questions.  Those addresses come from the configuration or from
 answers obtained earlier.  If there is an excelent and knowledgeable
 name server sitting 10 inches away on eth0, too bad its address was not
 listed in the configuration, because it may instead be trying to get
 an answer from the other side of the earth.
 
 Please correct me anyone, Is it not possible to configure named to allways
 ask a particular name server first, and only do the formally correct
 search for authoritative answers if the first server does not know?
 
 
 I had RHL7.3 a looong time ago and can't remember except through the rosy
 glasses we tend to see the bad old days when we were kids.
 
 Yet I guess it was not that whimsically, it was in its configuration and in
 the routing tables.  It would be addressing the messages to specific IP
 addresses, there is no broadcasting around for answers in dns.  And so, if it
 used the wrong destination IP address, it would not have helped to have
 the world's best nameserver connected to eth0, even if it were to send on that
 interface.
 
 Or, have I forgotten? Does somebody remember what confusion reigned
 in the Linux routing code?  Or did Linux then fall back to sending
 duplicated datagrams on all interfaces if it had no matching route?
 
 By the way, what you call "hardware ports" is usually called "interfaces",
 even the term "(network) interface" is also use for things that don't
 really exist in hardware. I have a ppp0 interface that emits its segments
 on eth0, whereas I also have eth0 as a separate intgerface with an IP
 address. Yet the segments emitted by ppp0 do not have IP addresses, only
 ethernet addresses. (But then there are some IP addresses buried deeper
 inside the segemnts.) In this way, ppp0 is a pure software interface in
 my case, yet all data that enter my house or leave it, do so over "ppp0".
 You find the word "interface" in abbreviated form in e.g., "ifconfig", in
 "/etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0" and many other.
 
 -Enrique
 
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    |   Best partition techniques for Linux/Winxp     Posted: 04 Oct 2005 12:35 PM PDT sherry wrote:
 
 I've never experienced that. Keep the windope partition to FAT32
 then you got access and resizability option open with all the major
 liveCDs (http://www.livecdlist.com )
 I generally install windope / linux in any order,
 then using QtParted reparition if necessary, and then using
 Mepis liveCD and its GUI grub installer install grub
 to boot up the linux/windope install by configuring
 the /boot/grub/menu.lst file.
 Even if windopes illegally overwrite the boot sector akin
 to malware to wipe out the linux install, it can still be brought
 back to life with Mepis liveCD grub installer.
 
 
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    |   linux install on sony laptop     Posted: 04 Oct 2005 09:47 AM PDT On 10/04/05 18:47, GIJoe wrote: 
 I did several slackware installations via network mounting the cdrom via
 nfs. It is not a standard setup and required some manual work but always
 worked OK.
 
 Ciao
 Giovanni
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