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Posted: 03 Feb 2005 01:51 PM PST

Thufir Hawat wrote: 
yes, as you mentioned, i checked them all, to be sure

so the only logical conclusion i could draw was the flat panel...
unless i become aware of other facts i haven't discovered yet...

thanks

kyle

debian sarge 2.6.11 kernel?

Posted: 02 Feb 2005 02:32 PM PST

John Hasler <gt.org> wrote in 

Hmmmm.... Are we both talking about the scary message that comes up when
you run make-kpkg? That message was pretty scary. It even said "I assume
you know what you are doing. Now that is scary.

I dunno. I was just assuming that the problem was with initrd/cramfs ...
whatever the heck it is. I think it's a good assumption, though, because
when I'm booting the 2.6.8 kernel it syas found "found cramfs" very early
in the boot messages. All I really know is that after installing the
kernel, my laptop wouldn't boot.

But I don't really know why it crashed because I'm blind and it crashed
before it fed any text to the serial port where the speech synthesizer is
connected. Nothing came out there.

This is indeed scary if you're blind because to go back to the old kernel,
you have to cursor odwn to the other kernel and the thing isn't talking yet
at that point. Picture yourself trying to recover from a kernel panic w/o a
monitor.

So maybe I was closer to geting the thing to work than I thought. When I
asked the Magic 8 ball if I should try again it said "Outlook good".

I'll have to think about it though. It's a lot of work and daisy (that's
her name) is working (more or less) at the moment.

I have a plip connection to the outside world so I do have an internet
connection even though I have no pcmcia. Downloaded emacspeak audio
desktop, an mp3 player, I'm all set eexcept for ethernet.





--
Puddles

Ways to keep my Debian box updated over dial-up (3 KB/sec)?

Posted: 02 Feb 2005 02:24 PM PST

follow up set to comp.os.linux.setup

com wrote:
[..] 
CD-RW 
download- 
 
 
I do 
is a 
 

bittorrent would allow you to download everything at home in that you
can resume downloads. maybe download the entire distro and
update/upgrade via the hard drive? very lengthy process, of course,
and, it's more of a nce-in-a-while solution rather than a day-to-day
maintenance.

--
Thufir Hawat

Samba and symlinks

Posted: 02 Feb 2005 02:03 PM PST


Jules wrote: 
[snip] 

This is standard _Windows_ behavior (actually an illusion). No files
are actually copied/moved, the files are not "present" at the location
of the link, Windows just displays the name of the linked-to file
automagically.
 
realising 
rather 

You need to be clear just _how_ you are accessing the Samba shares from
Linux as they are not equivalent. Eg., smbmount is available only on
Linux and it "translates" Win behavior (or in this case, fails to) to
be more consistent with Linux filesystem behavior. Thus links will
show as links, not as the files they point to -- just as links are
treated for other Linux fs types. Links _may_ be followed when you
_access_ them with the 'follow symlinks' set in smb.conf, not when you
simply _list_ directory contents. This is why link names are usually
the same as the filename to provide a measure of transparency. The
link creator must provide this.
 

Can't remember about this one. In any case, your problem has to do
with smbmount -- if that's the way you are accessing the Samba share.
The server sends the same data over the wire (as it must to "conform"
to NB/CIFS). The smbmount code, otoh, _knows_ it's running on Linux
(since it only runs on Linux) and uses the data to be most consistent
with Linux fs behavior. The assumption being that this would also be
the most useful. Not so for your tastes.
 
I'm 
need 
the 
around 
to 
your 

Because you are following the link to _access_ the file the link points
to. Standard Linux behavior. Standard behavior for FTP (which
smbclient is modeled on in some respects).
 

Linux is not Windows. The treatment of all sorts of filesystem objects
and attributes differs. It would be _inconsistent_ to have one part of
the filesystem tree on Linux behave in the standard Linux fashion and
some other portion comform to Windows behavior.
 
Yes' 
 
[q]
However from my client (also a Slackware box) I just see the symlinks
as though they were referencing files on my local disk; I was hoping
the Samba server would present the actual files that the symlinks point
to.
[eq]
This is how smbmount is designed to behave. It is not designed to
behave as your stated wish to behave as a Windows box.

I may not be understanding your "problem" (would not be the first time
with my dense skull).

I also don't have Samba shares available or any Samba components loaded
on this machine I'm using, so can't do any quick tests to _see_ if I am
understanding your situation.

If you are using a gui client on your Linux box, I can't remember how
all of them handle this. Windows users are often bewildered by this
explict reminder of the distinction between links and files, especially
if they use the default setup that "hides" known filetype extensions.

If I'm completely offbase just s*&tcan this and tell me to go play with
my own toys.

hth (if not, ignore it;)
prg
email above disabled

FC3 + laptop + no sound

Posted: 02 Feb 2005 12:48 PM PST

Jeff Krimmel wrote: 

Thanks for the thoughts, I *think* the utility was run successfully at
install time, but I've installed three other systems in two weeks, so I
can only say that it has checked config on other installs, and I'll
double-check in an hour or so.

To your other point, I've checked setting with both aumix and alsamixer,
used mpg123, mpg321, "play" from sox, whatever the desktop "CD player
is," audacity, xmms, and mplayer with the output directed to both oss
and alsa drivers, plus whatever it does without forcing, which works on
other systems. They all worked (I didn't try forcing mplayer output)
previously.

I've had minor problems with speaker selection with 2.4 vs. 2.6 on
multichannel cards (I have to formulate a sensible question on that),
but no "doesn't work at all" issues previously.

I'll report either later tonight or tomorrow morning.

--
-bill davidsen (com)
"The secret to procrastination is to put things off until the
last possible moment - but no longer" -me

Permanently disable mouse acceleration

Posted: 02 Feb 2005 10:53 AM PST

com wrote: 
Are you REALLY sure that the settings don't change because you have the
wrong values in the hotplug script? Do you have a hotplug script (I
haven't FC3 here to check). Are you sure your mouse isn't lying about
its resolution? I have plugged both PS/2 and USB mice in without getting
any behaviour which violated the law of least astonishment.

--
-bill davidsen (com)
"The secret to procrastination is to put things off until the
last possible moment - but no longer" -me

kernel source for fedora

Posted: 02 Feb 2005 02:35 AM PST

Tom F. wrote:
 

.... yep. that is why i said this thread should be entertaining
since the OP has been stumped on the SIMPLEST of tasks, and
NOW they want to build a kernel ?!?!??! i'd say a good book
is in store and the OP should be sitting down with it and
reading all about the theory and practice of the basics of
Linux, then move on to more challenging subjects. but i
doubt that this will happen. others will continue with these,
what almost appear to resemble, a chat room.
--
<< http://michaeljtobler.homelinux.com/ >>
"There's nothing wrong with teenagers that
reasoning with them won't aggravate."

How to install glib 2.3.2 on debian woody?

Posted: 02 Feb 2005 01:04 AM PST


Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: 
woody 
so 

It's a binary version and I the source code is not distributed.
 
and 
For 
new 
ones. 
it. 
location and 

So I could place them in some directory, say /opt/mylibs and then
append this "/opt/mylibs" to the path? Would that be all?
Where could I get a binary version of glib 2.3.2 for my system?

mount: special device dev/hda2 does not exist

Posted: 01 Feb 2005 09:56 PM PST

I'm not in FC3 right now, so I can't do an ls.

I can tell you that I replied to my own first post as soon as I found
how correct my syntax so that mount did what I intended it do do. I
didn't know the command I was looking for was:

[shell] mount -t vfat /dev/hda2 /mnt/hda2

I thought I'd tried that, but must've been mistaken. sorry 'bout that.

Yes, the problem is solved, I wasn't giving the command I thought I
was.

--
Thufir Hawat

installing mpg123 failed -what did I do wrong

Posted: 01 Feb 2005 01:14 PM PST

On 2005-02-01, StewartW <com> wrote: 

You could always try mpg321.
mpg123 is on the 'non-free' group. but am not
sure if that affects with your apt reference.


--
- Pat Tongco
2.6.10-ck5.012105

Catch 22 trying to install doc package

Posted: 01 Feb 2005 12:25 PM PST

Norm Dresner wrote:

[...] 

rpm -i --nodeps

=arvi=

"Sync out of range" problem on suse 9.1

Posted: 01 Feb 2005 05:56 AM PST

On 1 Feb 2005 05:56:04 -0800, vivekian <com> wrote: 

I had that problem when first switching from CRT to unlisted LCD monitor.

Try: SaX2 -l (which starts config in standard 640x480 vga)

And after selecting your monitor or one that closely matches check and/or
set proper horizontal and vertical frequency ranges. Although, I do not
know why yours works with startx from runlevel 3 and fails to work with
runlevel 5, unless there is something in your home dir that alters it.

tomsrtbt and DOS installation

Posted: 31 Jan 2005 10:27 PM PST

Lenard wrote:
[..] 
[..]

Thank you for the link, that's exactly correct to use SBM.
--
Thufir Hawat

"Warning: unable to open an initial console"

Posted: 31 Jan 2005 08:44 PM PST

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Jeff Krimmel wrote:

[...]

Well, I fixed the problem, but unfortunately I don't really know how I
did it. I ended up installing the SELinux packages (policycoreutils and
selinux-policy-targeted), uninstalling the off-the-web 2.6 FC3 kernels,
and reinstalling an off-the-web FC3 kernel. That particular kernel booted.

My only guess is some weird coupling between the udev and SELinux
packages. Before I did the whole SELinux trick, I noticed after every
reboot (when I was looking at the system from a recovery CD), the /dev
directory lacked many of the devices (most notably the /dev/vc devices)
that exist on every other FC3 machine I have administered. I read a ton
about udev but could not find anything that would point me in the right
direction.

I ended up changing not a single thing with udev, but installed SELinux
and uninstalled and reinstalled the off-the-web kernel, and that worked
fine. I wish I knew more about what exactly happened, but that's as far
as I got with it.

Thanks for your time and the responses,

Jeff

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redhat install on P II, 256 MBRAM, 400 MHZ

Posted: 31 Jan 2005 03:20 PM PST

On Tue, 1 Feb 2005 08:21:40 +0100, Michael Heiming <michael+heiming.de> wrote: 
 

Not only that, but 256M of ram is more than enough for any desktop manager.

Using recent linux version with the 2.6 kernel will run faster than a distro
running on an older kernel such as 2.4 or heaven forbid 2.2.