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Need to install Windows 2000 from scratch to HDDs with Debian/Linux

Posted: 17 Jan 2005 10:50 AM PST

In message <net>, com
writes 

More information needed. What partitions and mount points do you
currently use? Ideally, we need the print outputs of fdisk for the
drives, plus the output of df. You may not need to resize any
partitions, some copying plus use of fdisk and tweaking of /etc/fstab
may be enough. OK, this is a bit scary, but not as much as resizing
Linux partitions with Windows tools. You should certainly backup all
data before you start. One of the live CDs (Knoppix etc.) is useful for
doing this kind of work, as you cannot do it from inside Debian. Tom's
Root and Boot floppy (tomsrtbt) is fine for this, but it's a bit
unfriendly if you haven't used it before.

A W2K installation will need 2G minimum for itself, plus whatever you
are doing with it, say 5G total. *It must have the use of the first
primary partition it can see (NTFS, FAT or FAT32), of at least a
megabyte, on /dev/hda*. This may be the 5G partition if this is
convenient, or a separate one. I use a FAT partition of about 20MB for
this, as it contains the Windows boot.ini file, which may need to be
edited from outside Windows, and NTFS is not a good idea here. The main
W2K partition needs to be NTFS to make use of file permissions and some
other features.

Windows really ought to go on a multi-boot system first, as it is likely
to trample the Master Boot Record of /dev/hda. The NT variants are much
more polite than the domestic (Win9x) types, so if W2K finds the MBR
already in use by something that isn't a Win9x or DOS, it may not
overwrite it. I'm not sure, but you need to be prepared to re-run your
Linux boot manager (lilo or grub) which means you need a rescue floppy
or CD. You could instead use whatever distro you used to move the
partitions, but you need to know how to do that, whereas this is exactly
what a rescue disc for a particular installation is designed to do. It's
not difficult either way, but try it before the W2K installation. You
also need to edit and re-run the boot manager to include the new W2K
installation in its start-up menu.

It is possible to do it the other way around, to let W2K have the MBR
and control the boot, and to edit C:\boot.ini to include the Linux
installation, but I've never done this and can't offer advice.
--
Joe

PCI: system does not support PCI.

Posted: 17 Jan 2005 06:13 AM PST

Maguire wrote:
 


.... it's in bad taste to submit such as long posting
without solicitation. as a rule, you should post it
to a website and point folks to it.

if this is for your thesis, shouldn't you be compelled
to harvest your own answer through research, without
asking for an answer?
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Make the second disk bootable

Posted: 17 Jan 2005 01:34 AM PST

com wrote:
 


.... two approaches.
* if you have a floppy, create a boot floppy.
(this is the EASIEST - be sure to make two floppy copies)
* install the boot loader to the second drive
and merely provide a chain-loader stanza on
whatever install is on the first drive. this
way, if drive one is unavailable, make the
second drive active and the boot loader will
be executed as usual.
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CUPS in SuSE...

Posted: 17 Jan 2005 12:20 AM PST

Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote:
.... 

I'd say that 99% of your constant/incessant whining about YaST is unfounded
and another 99% of what you say in response about it is untrue.

Just something I've noticed.

Here are some facts. The "authors of every package in the world" think
they know how to do administration "correctly" and in almost EVERY case, they
do their administration DIFFERENTLY. YaST is an attempt at unifying
the mess caused by the high-ego centric world of developers who are more
interested in building an empire than something that integrates well
with other pieces of software.

If you want to spend 90% of your time administrating everything by
hand is a plethora of configuration files spread throughout the universe,
then use Red Hat or some other distribution.

YaST is an amazing tools that attempts to do amazing things and yes...
sometimes, it doesn't do things quite right due to the ever changing
desires of developers with different ideas on what is "right".

SUSE's is trying to create an environment that at least feels like
it is consistent. If you don't like, grab something else.

XP tolerance of partition scheme changes

Posted: 16 Jan 2005 04:12 PM PST


dmorgan1 wrote: 
vary 

Depends -- see below.
 
where 

Thus, this current 160GB hd will have _no_ MS partition types? Ie., no
partition on _this_ disk will be used even as a VFAT/ro NTFS data
exchange partition?

[snip] 

Depends on what you mean by "correct". System/boot drive?
 
[snip]

If you want to eradicate MS partition types from hda (including
changing the type tag for the extended partition to 0x85 Linux extended
partition?), then XP will largely ignore hda entirely.

That leaves you with Xp on hdb -- not the "usual" or MS recommended
placement. Many around here report trouble free use of XP on hdb, but
I cannot say -- I _always_ place MS OSes on hda since I don't trust the
OS code and certainly don't trust 3rd party software likely installed
on the MS/XP partition. Linux is much more flexible and easier to move
about than XP, so why risk the trouble? That's my attitude -- yamv ;-)

MS OSes normally assign C: to the system boot partition and assign
other "recognized" partitions as mjt wrote (IIRC). XP can be "forced"
to map drive letters more than previous versions -- but why bother
unless it's necessary?

I like the idea of keeping Linux wholly and completely separate from XP
with an additional disk drive. Whether XP on hda or hdb is your call.
Do note that XP can be picky about the hd being moved after the initial
install.

And with a VFAT partition on XP's drive you would have a "common r/w"
partition if you need to move files in both directions -- from Linux to
XP and vice versa. And _that_ partition would also be separate from
the Linux installation.

Now that leaves you with a rather untidy partition layout on hda. I
assume you intended/hoped to use the leftover partition space for
Linux. With such a large hard disk I would definitely recommend a new
scheme altogether. Eg., if hda2 is your /boot, it is much larger than
you'll ever need -- 100MB tops if you're in the habit of keeping
_every_ kernel version ever used to boot your system.

There is much to be said for assigning separate patitions to /home,
/usr, /var, and /tmp, as well as /boot, / [root], and your LVM
partitions. In fact, with just one or two machines to take care of, I
recommend that people just leave unpartitioned free space to allow for
future needs. For most people /home is the one that will inevitably
grow while the others work quite well with fixed, appropriately sized
partitions.

Here are some MS links to get you started with XP disk partitioning:
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=313348
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/307844

hth,
prg
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burning cd permissions problem

Posted: 16 Jan 2005 06:40 AM PST

Novello wrote:
 

Clear the suid root on cdrecord and cdrdao. The new kernels don't like it.

Roby

Red Hat Linux wouldn't boot up after a day.

Posted: 16 Jan 2005 01:45 AM PST

On 2005-01-16, Joe Jess <com> wrote: 

It looks like you have a problem with the user quota system. The
easy way is to disable it if you are not using for real.
BTW, RH 8 is way old, you'd better get something more up to date.

Davide

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Any good access to EXT2 partitions from Windows (2K)

Posted: 15 Jan 2005 10:39 PM PST

Norm Dresner wrote:

..... 
Nothing to worry. It works here with XPSP2, readonly.
But then I use captive-ntfs from linux, which captures the native XP/2K NTFS
drivers and uses them in a sandbox, to give unrestricted write access to
ntfs. Though that might not work with XPSP2 drivers anymore, but I got mine
installed when using SP1, and it still works fine.

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Bind raw device in FC3?

Posted: 15 Jan 2005 09:57 PM PST

Heads up for anyone else who network installs OS's and needs to deal with
SuSE's new 9.2 distribution. They've merged the i386 and x86_64
distributions onto a single shared DVD and source tree, and renamed the
kernel and initrd for bootinig x86_64 to vmlinuz64 and initrd64.

That drove me *nuts* when I network installed an x86_64 and it turned up
with i586 kernel, because I hand't configured the network tools to use the
new package names.

xterm _entire_ screen blinking

Posted: 15 Jan 2005 07:19 PM PST

Bill Marcum <com.urgent> wrote:
 

e.g., resources visualBell and visualBellDelay

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How to determine kernel compatibility with distribution?

Posted: 15 Jan 2005 02:54 PM PST

"Davide Bianchi" <net> wrote in message
news:onlyforfun.net... 

As soon as I can free up some time, I'm going to create a half-dozen
different boot HDs for my rackmount embedded systems and I'll try it on one
of them. I'm not really worried about (most of) the IP stuff because the
primary targets for these systems uses only very primitive Ethernet stuff,
but the modutils are a worry because my systems rely very heavily on
modularized kernel additions to handle custom hardware -- in one system
we're flying we have almost 18 loadable kernel modules running together with
about the same number of user-space programs. If there's any
incompatibility, we'll probably find it. And we'll report it too.

Thanks
Norm

J2RE crashes Firefox in Fedora FC3

Posted: 14 Jan 2005 09:15 PM PST

net wrote: 


The README that comes with the package tells you to do just what you did

FEDORA CORE 3 & USB

Posted: 14 Jan 2005 02:58 PM PST

On Sat, 15 Jan 2005 00:34:48 +0100, Peter T. Breuer wrote:
 

The OP doesn't need to. Fedora core 3 comes with the functionality-just
plug in and double click on computer, then mount the drive through a
context menu or by double clicking on it.

Kind Regards.

Building a linux cluster with 2 machines

Posted: 14 Jan 2005 01:16 PM PST

WiseOldMan wrote: 

He can easily make an OpenMosix cluster with two machines, but maybe
it's too much for this. With VNC he can run applications with the
crossover cable or just ssh to the second machine and run applications.

--

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the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn
like fabulous yellow Roman candles.
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Problem with SCSI HP CD Writer+ 9200

Posted: 14 Jan 2005 09:31 AM PST

Ok, I already tried the device with another server with the same result.

Unplugged, the device's green light is flashing for a while and finally
turn red forever. Same behavior as plugged.

So, I guess it is actually dead and need to be serviced. ;-(


On Fri, 14 Jan 2005 14:34:49 -0500, % wrote :
 

To RAID or Not to RAID

Posted: 14 Jan 2005 07:24 AM PST


"Steve Wilder" <com> wrote in message
news:47b94$41e7ef4c$d88ce6f3$meganewsservers.com.. . 

If you need really stable RedHat or similar commercial grade support but are
cheap, www.whiteboxlinux.org. If you want leading/bleeding edge, Fedora Core
3.

Screen resolution settings, KDE only

Posted: 14 Jan 2005 02:42 AM PST

mjt wrote: 
Just like I said, screen resolution questions are usually dumb.

I was fooling around in Control Center, but before I changed the x
configuration so I couldn't select 1280 x 1024. Duh.

Thanks.
--
Tom F.
There are no numerals or underscores in my address.

Fedora Linux FC3 - adding old RH9 disk

Posted: 13 Jan 2005 03:37 PM PST

Thanks for your help, you saved me from trashing my machine in error!

Adding my second disk (RH9 disk)
===========================

I physically connected 2nd disk as slave (ie RH9 disk)
Rebooted into Fedora Linux
Got error messages about duplicate label /BOOT

2nd disk is known as hdb1 (boot section)
hdb2 (main section)

Relabelled 2 clashing labels

e2label /dev/hdb1 /bootRH9
e2label /dev/hdb2 /RH9

Edited fstab file added 3rd line ie linked label RH9 to disk directory
/rh9

/dev/VolGroup00/LogVol00 / ext3 defaults
1 1
LABEL=/boot /boot ext3 defaults
1 2
LABEL=/RH9 /rh9 ext3 defaults
1 2
none /dev/pts devpts gid=5,mode=620
0 0

Finally created mount point for new disk mkdir /rh9

Rebooted machine.

Could cd /rh9 !

Now all my data from my old RH9 disk appears within this directory

(I was not interested in accessing the boot section of my old RH9 disk.)

How to map weird keyboard keys to arbitrary actions?

Posted: 13 Jan 2005 02:53 PM PST

Steve Mading wrote:
 

Yes in theory, possibly in practice.

Many years ago my employer purchased some Key Tronic KB 3270 Plus
keyboards.
These keyboards are programmable. A MS-DOS program, supplied with
the keyboard (and available from Key Tonic's web site, I have
just now checked) was used to program the keys with any character
or character string one wished. In my employer's case, various
accented characters and commonly used typesetting commands were
stored onto the keys.
Subsequently, my employer was sold to another company who had a
different method of typesetting and threw out the existing
keyboards and computers. This is how I obtained them.

I thought I would use these keyboards with my, then new, Pentium
class computer running Windows 98.
Well, the keyboard works with the default key layout and the
MS-DOS program runs in a DOS window *but* the program did not
communicate with the keyboard :(

After a call to Key Tronic's technical support I learned that the
keyboard interface used on the motherboard had changed from that
which was used on 80386 motherboards and this is what prevented
the program from communicating with the keyboard. Worse, the new
style interface did not have a way for the computer to send data
to the keyboard.

Possibly this situation has changed again and perhaps a call to
Key Tronic or other keyboard manufacturer would be worthwhile.

And before you ask. No, you can't plug the keyboard into a 80386
machine, program the keyboard then disconnect it and plug it into
a Pentium machine. Well, you can, but the keyboard reverts to the
default layout when you disconnect it from the 80386.

Gord Torrie

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Install on small HDD

Posted: 13 Jan 2005 09:29 AM PST

On 01/13/2005 10:59 PM, Maria Ripanykhazova wrote: 
[snip]

Try *Ubuntu*, both a Live CD and Install CD images are available from:
http://www.ubuntulinux.org/

You may request free Ubuntu CD's online at: http://shipit.ubuntulinux.org/

To install Ubuntu, you should have at least 32 MB of RAM, at least 1.8
GB space on your hard disk for a standard Ubuntu desktop system, or at
least 350 MB for a minimal custom installation.

I have not tested these fully as yet, but their Live CD is based on
Morphix, which again is based on Knoppix otherwise.

Hope that helps.
Good luck!

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reallocating space to partitions

Posted: 13 Jan 2005 07:31 AM PST

mjt wrote:
 

.... i failed to mention this:
http://www.powerquest.com/partitionmagic/sys_req.html

System Requirements
Windows® XP Home Edition/Professional
Windows 2000 Professional
Windows NT WS/Me/98/98SE

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Xterm/Login hangs after starting remote service

Posted: 13 Jan 2005 12:01 AM PST


Laurenz Albe wrote: 
stdout, 
behaviour. 


Thanks that made it work!

cable modem reset

Posted: 12 Jan 2005 05:32 PM PST

On Fri, 14 Jan 2005 18:48:44 -0800, prg wrote:
<snip> 

LOL!
 

Yessir!

<snip> 

Yea, i had a look at the man pages for dhclient and the seperate one for
dhclient.conf. Fedora has a sample config file, but it is a _scary_
thing to even look at!
 

Spotted it in the sample. I'm hoping _that_ one line is the only necessary
one, so far, so good.

<snip> 

Ahh, the penny drops! :-)

I had my box setup to boot automagically at night, start the edonkey
client and switch off in the morning. Can you imagine my frustration when
it had done nothing, all because my mate wanted to play a game sometime in
the afternoon?

Thank you so much for the info. Only to test it now :-)

Grub error suse 9.2

Posted: 12 Jan 2005 04:53 PM PST

Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote:
 
 
Sure. I didn't mean to imply grub wouldn't need to be reconfigured.
Certainly it must be. I'm just saying, as a point of general philosophy and
functionality _linux_ (including the whole distribution) doesn't care where
it resides.

Absolutely, the boot loader cares where it is and must be set up correctly,
but that's just par for the course. In older hardware, the kernel had to be
on a primary partition, but I don't even think that's true anymore. Though
I always make a separate /boot primary partition anyway.
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