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Open Office - [discuss] Change OpenOffice look and feel like MS 2003.

[discuss] Change OpenOffice look and feel like MS 2003.

Posted: 21 Aug 2007 01:13 PM PDT

Hi mirfan,

mirfan wrote:
 

If I see it right the main difference between OOo and MSO2003 in this
regard is the order of entries in menu and toolbars, right?

So aligning OOo's menu structure and toolbar content to MSO2003 as close
as possible should bring you a big step further. Fortunately this can be
done without coding, you just need to rewrite some XML files that store
the configuration of menu and toolbars. In case you are interested in
doing this please follow up on the openoffice.org mailing
list.

Ciao,
Mathias

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[discuss] Compatibility with Microsoft Office 2007

Posted: 21 Aug 2007 12:24 AM PDT

Unfortunately the new MS formats are just as closed as the old formats
so there is not really hope of third party implementations. Licensing
gotchas actually make the possibility smaller.

Best policy is to reject them. If you are getting them through your
mail, then you can set your mail filter to block them from your view and
autorespond with a rejection notice including instructions in how to
save in a better format.

Regards
-Lars

Joshua Money wrote: 

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[discuss] About Currency Mistake in Open Office Calc

Posted: 19 Aug 2007 06:53 AM PDT

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On 08/17/2007 10:58 AM, x wrote:
 

OOo contains locale data for:
* Turkish (Turkey);
* Kurdish (Turkey);

The currency options reflect this difference.

The currency option you selected was for Kurdish (Turkey).
 

One of the fundamental human rights, as laid out by the United Nations,
is the right to read, write, and communicate in one's native language.

Turkey has had a long history of denying basic human rights to Kurds, of
which this is but one example. There is no rational for OOo to follow
Turkey's bad example.
 

That might happen when Kurdistan is granted independence by Turkey.

xan

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[discuss] Why is it free? Explanation leads to expansion?

Posted: 16 Aug 2007 02:57 PM PDT

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Your reply told me something I didn't know, I used Star back in the 80's ( I think it is the same thing).

I was happy to upload open office as I knew Google were using Linux, and have been delighed and impressed with the professionalism of Open Office and the discuss group.

If you upload something you can just as easily uninstall it later.

I teach computing, and use OF for myself and reccomend it to my students.


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[discuss] Auto spellcheck

Posted: 16 Aug 2007 02:57 PM PDT

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From: Ed McKie <net.au>
Date: Thu 16 Aug 2007 01:44:11 PM EST
 

The OOo (OpenOffice.org) spell check function has to accommodate many
languages and requires a little configuration to ensure it works
correctly for your language/dialect.

If you want the Australian dictionary download the options from this
page: http://www.justlocal.com.au/clients/oooau

For other English variations or languages dictionaries see:
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Dictionaries

For a tutorial on spell checking and language configuration see:
http://www.oooforum.org/forum/viewtopic.phtml?t=3D50862

BTW The best address to get OOo support is org

Hope this helps.

Dave

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[discuss] Formatting Request

Posted: 14 Aug 2007 05:10 PM PDT

Shaver, Jon wrote: 

There is a configurable slot which formats with two decimals and
thousands separator. If that's what you need, it's pre-configured on the
Shift-Ctrl-1 keyboard shortcut, or you can add it to the toolbar using
Tools/Customize, adding "Number Format: Decimal" from category "Format".

Niklas

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[discuss] Notes / comments

Posted: 14 Aug 2007 01:24 PM PDT

On 2007.08.21. 10:28, Mathias Bauer wrote: 

first implementation probably still will be lacking a bit (no easy
printing, no notes on textblocks, no change information displayed this
way), but - congrats on getting this finally started and thanks both for
the work already done and in advance for one that will follow :)

i'm checking out the wiki periodically, so keep on throwing out
interesting bits of information there - and once this hits dev
snapshots, i will make sure to test things out.

damn. i should have thought of clicking on 'watch' before. doing that now =)
 
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[discuss] Writer Update

Posted: 12 Aug 2007 04:15 PM PDT


I dont need this stuff

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To: <org>
Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2007 6:42 PM
Subject: [discuss] Writer Update


Hello,

In Writer I went to "Help>Check for Updates". The dialog box message read
"A new update is available. Click 'OK' to open the website, where you can
start the download".

Clicking "OK" takes me to
http://update.services.openoffice.org/ooo/221.html, which does not seem to
offer the update. Perhaps I'm overlooking something.

It seems obvious that "SOLUTIONS", "CONTRIBUTE", and "FEEDBACK" sections
wouldn't link to an update. The "SERVICES" section seemed possible, but when
I followed the link in that section, I still didn't find anything that looks
like an update to writer.

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[discuss] Excuse me for shouting "Defaultisme"

Posted: 11 Aug 2007 05:07 PM PDT

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Let's see...while it was a rambling email, the OP DID have a valid
suggestion. And for the valid suggestion, the only response he gets is
the far-from-civil response from christine jones.

Given that I've already changed the defaults on MY installation, I
cannot confirm what the original defaults were, as Chris was unable to
do, but if the spreadsheet defaults to having autocorrect on, that
seems to me to be a bad idea, as well. Autocorrect is not nearly
fine-grained enough to distinguish between badly spelled words and
variable or data-range names, for instance, and something like that
can really mess up a spreadsheet user. So, while having autocorrect on
for Writer might be a good idea, it's a BAD idea for Calc.

I'm picky enough to mess with autocorrect as one of the first things I
do after installing, but I dare say that most casual office suite
users don't even know autocorrect exists until it's bit them in the
rear a few times. Modifying the installation scripts so that users are
given the option of choosing whether to turn autocorrect on would, at
least, make them aware at the start of its existence, and ensure that,
if it IS turned on, it is by the user's choice, rather than as a default.=


christine jones wrote: 

<bandwidth sacrifice>
 
 
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[discuss] Helloo

Posted: 11 Aug 2007 05:06 PM PDT

On Sun, Aug 12, 2007 01:05:42 AM +0100, Paul Campbell
(com) wrote:
 

No, but maybe a couple of suggestions won't hurt:

1) you did a "reply-all", both to the list and to that "Mr, Pete"
address. Remember not to do it next time you inform a list to
ignore spam. Placing the spammer's reply-to address in CC only
guaranteed that you will either get a bounce, or bother its
rightful owner, or confirm to "Mr, Pete" that yours is a valid
address which can and should be spammed thousands times more

2) When you send "don't bother" informational messages, please do not
retransmit the whole original spam. Doing so may mess up other
people's antispam filters.

Thanks,
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[discuss] UK e-petitions for ODF

Posted: 11 Aug 2007 10:22 AM PDT

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On 8/11/07, Alexandro Colorado <com> wrote: 

UK residents can sign too (I guess nationality does not matter as long as
you pay your taxes here ;-) )

Cheers,

Michele

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[discuss] Possible error in xhtml export (over H1 - H6 generation,

Posted: 10 Aug 2007 04:02 AM PDT

Thank you Bernd!

I just file the issue:
http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=80679

Carlo

Bernd Eilers ha scritto: 

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[discuss] Possible error in xhtml export (over H1 - H6 generation, i.e. H7)

Posted: 10 Aug 2007 03:10 AM PDT

2007/8/14, Carlo Strata <it>: 
<snip>

I agree with you Carlo, the question is: is there a H7 bug in xhtml conversion.
Problem is that tll now, nobody has confirmed (or not) your findings.
Even if nobody verifies your finding, you can file a bug...

[Bernd: Java is installed 1.0.5_07, no custom install, but a Mac
version 2.3 m221]
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[discuss] I HATE DEFAULTISME !!!!!

Posted: 09 Aug 2007 02:08 PM PDT

Guy Voets wrote: 

It's just a child who has overheard some big, bad words and thinks that it's
grown up. Ignore it completely and it'll go away.

Peter HB

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[discuss] Changing the "Default Language" of the Spell Checker

Posted: 07 Aug 2007 11:21 AM PDT

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From: jonathon <com>
To: org, com
CC: net
Date: Wed 08 Aug 2007 06:38:42 EST
 

In addition to Jonathon's answer. You can add required dictionaries from
the "File -> Wizards -> Install new dictionaries..." menu option.

Alternatively see:
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Dictionaries

For a tutorial on spell checking and language configuration see:
http://www.oooforum.org/forum/viewtopic.phtml?t=3D50862

Hope this helps.

Dave


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[discuss] Good Ideas.

Posted: 07 Aug 2007 11:19 AM PDT

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On 8/8/07, Guy Voets <com> wrote: 


That's interesting. I suppose the way that the MAC handles it is probably
the correct way - you should be able to have different font sizes in a
single cell (even after merge).

However, the issue raised by the OP is still not replicatable... Anyone with
a vista machine to test?

/paul

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[discuss] Fwd:[there's a trouble from openoffice for linux version 2.0 (staroffice files)]

Posted: 02 Aug 2007 11:59 AM PDT

lol
"control panel"
"installation program"

I would wager that you two are not exactly linux experts.
If it is the file manager then the wrong values have been recorded in
the mime database, and what caused this depends on various factors,
which OOo did he install first, which one (if not both) were provided
by his distro etc?

For the OP, in order to change the file associations through the
nautilus (GNOME), one has to change the default program in the "Open
with" tab of the properties dialog of any of the relevent files. If in
KDE, then it's one of the applets in the K Control Centre. (and
possibly one of the tools in the file manager as well, not sure)

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[discuss] Online Classroom Whiteboard Applications

Posted: 30 Jul 2007 01:39 PM PDT

Hi, Russ,

I've been doing distance learning projects on and off since 1995. 1994
if you count a monstrously large (at the time) web tutorial. Time is
ripe for a project to identify and evaluate the open source technologies
useful for distance education. Perhaps funding can be sought for next
year and work spread over a few colleges or universities?

I've used many of those commercial tools mentioned and it escapes me
that there is so much focus on monolithic "solutions", often replacing a
cheaper, easier to use, easier to maintain, more flexible and more
powerful set of tools.

Following a modular plan will give much more flexibility and
functionality.

Specific programs are not as important to Voice chat as are the school's
choice of protocols. Choose an open protocol (e.g. SIP) and you get a
choice of applications and platforms. Choose a closed protocol and your
S.O.L. unless your vendor wants to help you.

To start with WengoPhone, ekiga, kphone, YATE, Gizmo might give ideas
about what to look for and where to search further.

Same with text chat. Pidgin (formerly GAIM) is one of the best. Again
the protocols are more important than the specific programs. However,
most VOIP clients also include text-based chat.

For whiteboards I've considered using just a plain old remote desktop
connection. See KDE's krdc and krfb for one example, but there are
others that work together. These seem to allow many-to-one connections
and read-only connections. Again, its the protocol that's important, in
this case rfb or vnc.

Regards,
-Lars


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[discuss] wish it worked better on Mac

Posted: 29 Jul 2007 04:56 AM PDT

Thanks. I will try this, it looks promising.=20


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2007/7/29, Benjamin Huot <com>: 
it 
with 
a 

Hello James

On my Intel iMac with OSX 10.4.10 I always use the Apple-C -V and -X
shortcuts. Same on my PPC Powerbook. I don't remember doing anything
special to achieve this... So both ctrl- and cmd- shortcuts work!

As for Calc, the mousewheel indeed scrolls very fast, so that you tend
to lose track. I hope this will be dealt with. Meanwhile, you can
always use the scroll bar on the right hand side. (I also dislike that
the arrows on the scrollbars are on opposite sides insteda of together
as on Mac - these are issues that are linked to a multi-platform
program that looks too much at one platform, i.e. Windows).

I wouldn't advise to switch to NeoOffice. It has few advantages over
OOo's main development. In fact it mostly copies OOo, and is always at
least one release behind as a consequence. NO isn_not_ the Aqua
version of OOo, but a fork, a side-track whose team doesn't contribute
anything to OOo's development (so called because of a different
licence).

OOo's Mac porting team is testing the Aqua version of OpenOffice.org
right now. A stable of _the real stuff_ will probably be available
somewhere later this year. Look out for it!

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[discuss] I have an idea to help OO Writer "Go Hollywood"

Posted: 29 Jul 2007 04:54 AM PDT

Carl Garrett wrote:
 

And each production insists on their own different
formatting. [I'm pretty sure that the quality of TV would be
improved a thousand times if they all used the same
formatting specifications, and didn't spend time measuring
whether the line spacing was 1/8 inch or 5/32 inch high.]
 

Lost in the bowels of the OOo website is a project to do
just that. I've forgotten what it is called, but the
original theory was that it would produce templates for the
"major" studios, and then fine tune them for the specific
productions. I've forgotten how the screenplay template fits
in with that project.
 

Hoops?
These are the guys that will fire you because the document
used midnight blue ink for the lead actor, rather than dark
blue ink. God help you if the document is printed on canary
yellow paper, instead of manilla.[That the footer contains a
date and time stamp is not enough information to tell the
understudy that they are using the wrong document.]

xan

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[discuss] Internet Slide Shows

Posted: 25 Jul 2007 12:08 PM PDT

Hi,

As Alexandro mentioned, OOo can export presentations to Flash. I'd look
into that route as one option.

Another option is to use a viewer for the OpenDocument Format files
created by OpenOffice. The OpenDocument Fellowship has created one such
tool which will work with your presentations:
http://opendocumentfellowship.org/odfviewer

Remember with OpenOffice.org, your files are not locked into a single
application, but are available to many others. OpenDocument Format has,
with one notable exception, wide industry support and works in over 50
applications and handful of toolkits.

Regards,
-Lars

Keith wrote: 

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[discuss] Proposal for a New OpenOffice.org Art Project

Posted: 24 Jul 2007 03:28 AM PDT

Hi,
 

thanks, that sounds good! Having a leadership definitely is one of the
most important things, so - apart from the discussion if it makes sense
to establish an own Art project at the moment because lack of
contributors - we definitely need at least two people, I guess. Feel
free to search for them. ;-)
 

I will answer to the other concerns in the respective thread later this
evening.

Florian

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SMTP current sessions - Microsoft Exchange

SMTP current sessions - Microsoft Exchange

SMTP current sessions

Posted: 01 Oct 2004 08:03 AM PDT

Timkcollier wrote: 

In where? In your outbound queues?
Did you check the authenticated relay link?
What version of Exchange?

If they're just in your 'connections' it isn't a relay issue - someone is
trying to send mail to you. Could be a spammer, might not be. It isn't a
relay issue then, tho.
 

Remote storage of attachments

Posted: 01 Oct 2004 04:47 AM PDT

Ah - ok!

Thanks Mark

"Mark Arnold [MVP]" wrote:
 

Multi Domain Exch Svr

Posted: 01 Oct 2004 04:17 AM PDT

So in ADUC for the parent domain I can create a mailbox for a user on the
child domain exchange? - just clarifying.

Thanks

"Mark Arnold [MVP]" wrote:
 

Storage Options for Exchange 2003

Posted: 30 Sep 2004 03:07 PM PDT

Daitauha <daitauha%remove%@hotmail.com> wrote:
 

Define "sensible". How much storage do you need? Do you want to share
it with other servers?

Dell, EMC, HP, and others make external storage devices, but whether
they're "sensible" depends on your needs, budget, and expectations.

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How exchange server 2003 sent & receive external email?

Posted: 30 Sep 2004 09:23 AM PDT

Works out of the box assuming that you have set up the correct recipient
update policy and not disabled anything.

"fong01" <microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:com... 

[MAPILAB ANN.] Native POP3 Connector v2 for Exchange/SBS

Posted: 30 Sep 2004 03:09 AM PDT

"Frank Hellmann" <com> wrote in
news:phx.gbl:
 

You are wrong! Powerusers don't even think of using a POP connector! Don't
forget, Exchange is a Server, not a client :-)
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Ports for OWA

Posted: 29 Sep 2004 02:37 PM PDT

Sorry PES, you're right

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I 
http://www.msexchange.org/tutorials/Securing-Exchange-Server-2003-Outlook-Web-Access-Chapter5.html 

How can I turn off Validation

Posted: 29 Sep 2004 12:57 PM PDT

He said that when spammers try sending mail to my server that they can check
to see if an email address is valid on that server, if they get a response
that the email address they are attempting is valid then they will start to
send the mail. Basically a check to see if the address exists on that server.

"Mark Arnold [MVP]" wrote:
 

Upgrade std 2000 to 2003 ent

Posted: 28 Sep 2004 02:45 PM PDT

Thanks, I'll get started!

"Daniel Dooley [MSFT]" wrote:
 

eval copies of exchange server 5.5

Posted: 28 Sep 2004 02:35 PM PDT

Thanks. 
Exchange 2000. 
confers no rights. 
alias is for newsgroup 

Public Folder Messages

Posted: 28 Sep 2004 11:44 AM PDT

S. Pliskin wrote: 

You're welcome!
 

Unable to see mailboxes after restore.

Posted: 28 Sep 2004 08:00 AM PDT

It sounds like you are talking about exchange 5.5. Is your database
locations set correctly?

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news:39a001c4a56b$d7f79ff0$gbl... 

NDR's

Posted: 27 Sep 2004 07:46 AM PDT

Thanks Guy.
 
steps below: 
Protocols --> SMTP 
tab, in SEND A 
use to store 
Browse. 
articles about this 
would 

Microsoft Word - wrl001

Microsoft Word - wrl001

wrl001

Posted: 16 Jun 2013 12:53 PM PDT

I am using office 2010, and I have found a problem of Word file saving . Every time when I click "save", the file can be saved normally at the first time. But when I click it at the second time, I found it has popped up a window and asked me whether or not save as the name of WRL001. tmp. and after clicking cancel saving, the whole file has been changed its name into WRL001. How can I avoid this problem? I just want to make it normal, which means every time I click Save, and do not change my file's name and do not pop up the window.

Thank you!

Bill

WINDOWS 8/WORD: HOW TO CHANGE 'SIMPLE MARKUP' DEFAULT SETTING IN WORD TO 'NO MARKUP' AS THE DEFAULT SETTING?

Posted: 16 Jun 2013 11:37 AM PDT

Every time I open a WORD document in Windows 8, the default is 'simple markup' a feature I do not use or want, which requires me to click on 'no markup' every time. I want to change default to 'no markup' but even Geek Squad could not find a solution. Help!

column page numbers

Posted: 15 Jun 2013 02:55 PM PDT

how do I get page numbers on a two column document whre each column shoudl be a page

Copy from internet paste to doc problem with xxxxi's

Posted: 15 Jun 2013 09:22 AM PDT

Word 2007. While copying a small letter i followed by parenthesis and s and pasting to a blank document, it the small i often becomes a capital I. Keri's becomes KerI's and such. It's been happening to me probably from the first, but each time I saw the doc, I just assumed that was what the original read. Now upon further investigation I realize that isn't the case. I don't see anyone else mentioning this.

Is there something with Kaspersky that causes Word & Powerpoint doc to hang in protected view without ever opening?

Posted: 15 Jun 2013 07:20 AM PDT

since installing Kaspersky I've had problems with opening some Word docs including Ppt docs. Initially thought my Office software was corrupt so i reloaded software and even upgraded to Office 2013,  no luck. When trying to open some Word doc, they just hang in Protected view without ever opening. Help please!

Word does not open a file (xml ilegal caracter)

Posted: 15 Jun 2013 06:30 AM PDT

Hello.

I made one file in Microsoft Word 2007. Then I took the file, putted in a micro-sd card and edited in an android tablet. To edit the document in the android tablet I used Olive Office Premium. I wrote some new words in the document and pasted some images in the document. After this I took the micro-sd card and inserted again in my computer. I tried to open the document, in the document, with Microsoft Word, and appeared the message that the file cannot be open due to xml ilegal caracter. I tried already "Open and Repair" and it did not work. I tried to open the document with Open Office and it does not work. I can open the document with the WordPad, but it doesn't open the complete document. It opens only 4 pages. The document has much more pages.

How can I solve my problem? In there any solution?

The document contains images.

Thanx

I downloaded office 365 for word 2010,, i cant find it how do i find word documents for 2010

Posted: 13 Jun 2013 07:10 PM PDT

I am in a class wich uses microsoft word or actually to learn microsoft word 2010 ,, My laptop didnt come with microsoft word included so I bought office 365 wich was supposed to have word 2010,, i canyt seem to get it anywhere I also had microsoft word 2013 on my start menu and after i shut down it disappeared ,, what can I do to find 2010,,

 

Open Office - [discuss] Some ideas for improving openoffice

Open Office - [discuss] Some ideas for improving openoffice

[discuss] Some ideas for improving openoffice

Posted: 24 Jul 2007 03:27 AM PDT

> In the English version the menu is Tools > Options > OpenOffice.org > 

thanks Michele
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[discuss] Proposal for a New OpenOffice.org Art Project

Posted: 21 Jul 2007 03:39 PM PDT

Hi Alexandro,

okay, I see the problem. :-)

As far as I got, you got some sort of approval from most of the people,
that taking a second approach to initiate art as a separate project
could be an idea, am I right? IIRC, Louis also shared that position?

I don't know how to establish a new project, but in my opinion, there
are two questions we should ask:

- Who will coordinate all of that (some sort of Lead/Co-Lead, so to
say)? Are you willing to get involved in that?

- What timeframe do you plan?

Florian

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[discuss] can't get installed

Posted: 19 Jul 2007 03:29 PM PDT

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[discuss] AA dumps Open Office, buys Microsof?

Posted: 19 Jul 2007 08:50 AM PDT

Kay Ramme - Sun Germany - Hamburg wrote:
 

Since I didn't bookmark them, I'm not going to spend then
fifteen or so hours required to find them on the wiki and
OOo website.

If you read my first message in this thread, it asked if you
could find the roadmap for OOo 4.0 on either the wiki, or
the main website. Look for that, and you'll probably
stumble across all of the other invalid roadmaps.
 

The only way that will be fixed is if Sun is fired.

If you are not a Sun employee you will not get commit access
to the main branch of OOo?

DO you realize that Sun has deliberately rejected
contributions to OOo that would have improved its
operability for some individuals?

Do you realize that Sun has rejected source code that would
have improved the functionality of OOo?
 

Because it extends much deeper than using sub-pages.
 

The sub pages are not findable by those who do not know that
they exist.
 

This is more akin to the model presented by Catastrophe Theory.
 

Thanks for demonstrating my point that the current system is
fatally flawed.
 

Yet another demonstration of how flawed the current
organization scheme is.

xan

jonathon

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[discuss] AA dumps Open Off

Posted: 19 Jul 2007 12:26 AM PDT

Lars Noodén wrote: 

I am hoping that this project can open up other applications when the
pro-Outlook people do what ever they can to get people to drop
Thunderbird or other mail apps.

http://openchange.org/

A change in format could well kill email for non-windows users in our
organization.

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anything that is a priority, please phone.
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[discuss] Can anyone buy an extra chair for SUN/IBM?

Posted: 18 Jul 2007 04:21 PM PDT

An article on the spanish news log (Barra Punto) mentions on how microso=
ft =

kick out IBM and Sun from the ISO voting process. The article mentions =

that the reason why IBM and Sun couldn't participate was because the lac=
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of space in the room.
http://barrapunto.com/article.pl?sid=3D07/07/17/0752256&from=3Drss

Although is reffered by the portuguese blog at blogger:
http://abretesw.blogspot.com/2007/07/sun-microsystems-sem-espao-na.html


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http://es.openoffice.org

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[discuss] AA dumps Open Office, buys

Posted: 18 Jul 2007 10:56 AM PDT

M. Fioretti wrote: 

Which was my main motivation in moving to FOSS back in the late 90's.
 

Personally, I do not find it undervalued, but I do find it a paradox in
the context of MS.
 

No. I can't stand it. However, I seem to observe that MS boosters in
various so-called IT depts absolutely love poking and prodding the same
bugs again and again.

One can make a strong case that one of the main reasons Novell Netware
lost marketshare to MS in the late 90's was that Netware more or less
ran by itself and needed little or no attention. Often leaving no
ongoing technical crises to keep staff on.
 

Hmm. I was thinking the exact opposite. Based on my observations in
institutions and businesses that *do not* use software as anything much
more than a glorified typewriter or calculator MS is used not because it
increases productivity, but rather the opposite. The more a department
depends on computers for work and communication, the more burden it
becomes. In otherwords, it's a way of throwing sand in the gears.
 

Which is fine. However, at the same time they spend countless hours
paying overtime for something that never quite works.

In contrast, using FOSS or even a hybrid like OS X allows the machines
to be installed and forgotten, thus permitting everyone to get back to
work.

-Lars

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[discuss] OpenOffice being sold on eBay

Posted: 17 Jul 2007 11:13 AM PDT

marie kavadias wrote:

 

Free can mean one of two things:
* Libre:
* Gratis;

1: Libre

The Free Software Foundation has defined "Libre Software"
as that which meets the Four Freedoms.
* The freedom to run the program, for any purpose (freedom 0).
* The freedom to study how the program works, and adapt it
to your needs (freedom 1). Access to the source code is a
precondition for this.
* The freedom to redistribute copies so you can help your
neighbour (freedom 2).
* The freedom to improve the program, and release your
improvements to the public, so that the whole community
benefits (freedom 3). Access to the source code is a
precondition for this.

Debian-Legal, to determine whether or not software meets
_The Debian Free Software Guidelines_, has devised the
following tests:

* "The Desert Island Test". Imagine a castaway on a desert
island with a solar-powered computer with an Internet
connection that can't upload. This would make it impossible
to fulfil any requirement to make changes publicly available
or to send patches to some particular place. This holds even
if such requirements are only upon request, as the castaway
might be able to receive messages but be unable to send
them. To be free, software must be modifiable by this
unfortunate castaway, who must also be able to legally share
modifications with friends on the island.

* "The Dissident Test". Consider a dissident in a
totalitarian state who wishes to share a modified bit of
software with fellow dissidents, but does not wish to reveal
the identity of the modifier, or directly reveal the
modifications themselves, or even possession of the program,
to the government. Any requirement for sending source
modifications to anyone other than the recipient of the
modified binary in fact, any forced distribution at all,
beyond giving source to those who receive a copy of the
binary would put the dissident in danger. For Debian to
consider software Free it must not require any such excess
distribution.

* "The Tentacles of Evil Test". Imagine that the author is
hired by a large evil corporation and, now in their thrall,
attempts to do the worst to the users of the program: to
make their lives miserable, to make them stop using the
program, to expose them to legal liability, to make the
program non-free, to discover their secrets, etc. The same
can happen to a corporation bought out by a larger
corporation bent on destroying free software in order to
maintain its monopoly and extend its evil empire. The
license cannot allow even the author to take away the
required freedoms.

Some people who work with content have added the following
test:
* DRM Dave's Hardware Platform:
Can Bob & Alice upload non-DRM content?
Can Bob & Alice download non-DRM content?
Can Bob & Alice download DRM content?
Can Bob & Alice upload third party DRM content?
Can Bob & Alice download third party non-DRM content?
Can Bob & Alice play first party non-DRM content?
Can Bob & Alice play third party non-DRM content?
Can Bob & Alice play third party DRM content?

If all of those conditions are met, then it is Libre.

2: Gratis

Whilst software that is Libre can be distributed Gratis,
there is no requirement to do so. A major issue with FLOSS
is the creation of a viable revenue stream through product
sales. The person you sell FLOSS to, can turn around and
burn a million CDs, either selling them for whatever price
they so desire, or just giving them away.

OOo is distributed under the GNU LESSER GENERAL PUBLIC
LICENSE Version 2.1, February 1999.
As such, it meets the requirement of Libre.

You can download OOo from
http://download.openoffice.org/index.html.
* There are vendors who will charge for downloading the
program from their website;
* There are vendors who will charge for the CD or DVD;
* There are vendors who will charge a per seat license fee;

How much you pay has no bearing on the amount, or type of
support you receive. I've seen CD vendors charge $0.99 and
provide one hour telephone support. I've seen CD vendors
charge $500.00 and provide no support at all.

TANSTAAFL: There is the implication with FLOSS that one will
support the community. The Debian Social Contract is the
best known of the formally defined "contracts".

3: Resources
The following URLs provide additional information:
* http://www.openoffice.org/FAQs/faq-licensing.html
* http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html

xan

jonathon

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[discuss] spyware

Posted: 14 Jul 2007 08:22 PM PDT

On Sat, 14 Jul 2007, dyck wrote:
 

To simply ask a vendor if there is any spyware in the product is naive in
the extreme. What do you suppose the answer would be? Yes? I don't think
so. Would you ask a used car salesman whether he was taking advantage of
you?

The advantage to using open source software is that you or someone
knowledgeable about programming can check the source code and verify that
there is no malware present.

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"If at first you do succeed, try not to
look astonished."

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[discuss] downloading

Posted: 12 Jul 2007 05:02 PM PDT

PS: try using a different mirror, if one is posing particular problems


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[discuss] I need Windows shortcut keys on my Mac

Posted: 08 Jul 2007 02:04 PM PDT

On Sun, 08 Jul 2007 13:16:33 -0500, Don Baker <net>
wrote:
 

Hi Don, remember you can costumize your shortcuts and save that
configuration. You just neecd to adjust it the way you want it.

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Any plans for 2008 trial version? Microsoft Office for Mac

Any plans for 2008 trial version? Microsoft Office for Mac

Any plans for 2008 trial version?

Posted: 15 Jan 2008 11:36 AM PST

Jolly Roger wrote: 

I've been told (at Macworld Expo) that there will be a 2008 trial
version, but no promises as to when.

Re the problems--the problems came from *not* removing the trial version
before installing the real version--I believe the 2008 installer has
been improved to offer to remove earlier versions, and I *think* (not
totally sure) that it will communicate and execute the "test drive MUST
be gone" message.

Codeman38--small specific questions about what it offers may be asked on
the newsgroups, but it's always best to try the program before making a
decision, of course.

Daiya

New G5 tower has problem opening Word 2004

Posted: 15 Jan 2008 09:31 AM PST

Known issue, although no one knows the cause. There are several
possible fixes--one of them should give you at least temporary relief.
See the article here:
http://word.mvps.org/Mac/CorruptFontErrors.html

com wrote: 

eraser function in word drawing mode

Posted: 13 Jan 2008 06:03 PM PST

....Another thought occurred as to where the confusion may be - there is an
Eraser tool on the Tables & Borders toolbar in both Mac & PC Word. However,
it does absolutely nothing with regard to images. It merely removes Borders
from table cells in order to merge the adjoining cells.

Regards |:>)
Bob Jones
[MVP] Office:Mac



On 1/15/08 1:08 AM, in article
googlegroups.com,
"lawengin" <net.au> wrote:
 

laptop faxing from cell phone

Posted: 13 Jan 2008 02:54 PM PST

I am talking to you at the moment using my Motorola cell phone as a modem.

I can tell you that the Motorola software is fairly flaky (i.e. Sometimes I
works, at other times it does not...)

I found the Motorola help desk to be both knowledgeable and helpful, you may
try ringing them. You should also check on the Motorola web site to see if
there is an update available for Motorola Phone Tools, the application that
is doing the work for you.

Hope this helps


On 14/01/08 8:24 AM, in article
com, "Desperate"
<microsoft.com> wrote:
 

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Please reply in the group. Please do NOT email me unless I ask you to.

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McGhie Information Engineering Pty Ltd
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internet explorer errors

Posted: 13 Jan 2008 01:23 PM PST

In article <microsoft.com>,
Corentin Cras-Méneur <mvps.org> wrote:
 

You have a choice too. The choice is to complain to web masters who make
such sites. Usually, but not always, complaining results in them
changing the site to be more standards compliant.

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Cursor Position - Word 2008

Posted: 10 Jan 2008 08:36 PM PST

Ditto the others as to 2008, but Daiya's right about 2007 - Right-Click the
Status Bar & select from a plethora of items available from there. If the
Status Bar is not displayed at all, go to Word Options from the Office
button & turn it on first.
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Bob Jones
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"Alan" <net> wrote in message
news:TmChj.54297$.. 

Microsoft's Mactopia site loses links to promotions and downloads

Posted: 10 Jan 2008 06:52 PM PST

How temporary? This is just bad form especially now when there is a time
limit on promotions. Someone is being paid to do this work and putting up a
site like Microsoft that's accessed constantly with no material even for a
few hours is bad form IMO.
--
Diane


 

MS Office X translates PPT to Word

Posted: 10 Jan 2008 12:41 PM PST

Further to Daiya's comments:

What happens if you open them from within PPt using File> Open?

If that's still a problem;

Are you sure they are .ppt files rather than .pps or some other type?
What does Get Info tell you about the file?
What PC version of PPt was used to create the files?
Were they sent "naked" or were they zipped?

BTW: Just for clarity there is no "Office X 2004 - v. 10.1.6" - If it's
10.1.6 it's Office X, there's no 2004 about it. Office 2004 is a completely
different version (11.x) of Office:-) Also, if you're at 10.1.6 you are
behind in updates - current is 10.1.9 which may make a difference. You can
get up-to-date from either program's Help> menu or from the Mactopia web
site:

<http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=fea9fd8a-ea16-4b3c-9381-18a389d5599a&DisplayLang=en>
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Regards |:>)
Bob Jones
[MVP] Office:Mac

<com> wrote in message
news:googlegroups.com... 

Office 2004 SP2

Posted: 10 Jan 2008 06:26 AM PST

In article <phx.gbl>,
"CyberTaz" <typegeneraltaz1ATcomcastdotnet> wrote:
 

he's not sorry.

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Can't complete Office 2004 setup assistant

Posted: 09 Jan 2008 09:06 AM PST

On 1/14/08 12:53 PM, in article
googlegroups.com,
"com" <com> wrote:
 

Sorry about that. I'll add that to the instructions. 

In Office 2004 you can drag over or use the installer. Both ways will
require the "first run" to trigger. This installs fonts and preferences.
Some are invisible files like your CD Key.

Run "Remove Office". Not sure how you removed it before but simply trashing
does not get all files. Next, in System Preferences create a new User and
give it admin privileges. Now boot from this new User.Try to install. Does
this work. If not, then download and run the 10.5.1 updater. As a last
resort you might have to do an "Archive & Install" of the OS.

Apple - Downloads - Mac OS X Updates - Mac OS X 10.5.1 Update
<http://www.apple.com/downloads/macosx/apple/macosx_updates/macosx1051update
..html>

A tip: When updating, use Software Updater to inform you of updates, but go
to Apple's downloads page and get the standalone updater.
 

Luckily this doesn't happen to everyone. With Leopard there are more
problems being reported because Office uses the base OS files to work. Some
Leopard users have run into problems because of the permission issues and
other faulty system files causing havoc.

Can you drag it over. Yes and know. Office will sense certain files haven't
been run and trigger the 'first run' which could land you back in the same
place you are now.

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