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Open Office - [discuss] Missing Product

[discuss] Missing Product

Posted: 14 Aug 2006 11:14 AM PDT

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Hi, Neil,

OpenOffice.org Writer does have an HTML editor built in. Maybe that would=
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meet the needs for a one-off class project. You can find it in the menu=20
Open -> New -> HTML Document

There are plenty of other tools available that won't break your bank=20
account.

Nvu is one,
=09http://www.nvu.com/
Mozilla Composer is simpler one built into the web browser, but good,
=09http://www.mozilla.org/projects/seamonkey/

Don't worry that they're not part of OOo. They're good.

I've taught basic web design a few times with Mozilla Composer at the=20
university level for very non-technical staff and students. It was very=20
easy to use and learn, and produced nice output.

DreamWeaver is what many professionals use, if they use that kind of tool.=
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XMetal is another very good one, which has additional advantages. If=20
there is reason to shell out good money, then these come with high=20
recommendations. However, also keep in mind, if the topic comes up again,=
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that many more professionals don't use any of the above, but simply write=
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using XHTML.

The person recommending MS Frontpage should be admonished not only for=20
wasting people's money on a dreadfully poor product, but also for=20
promoting a tool that encourages poor design and creates output with=20
severe technical limitations. It also produces further technical=20
dependencies on unrelated products from the same company, resulting in=20
further expenditures.

For a one-off course project, I'd recommend taking a look at what=20
either Mozilla or OOo Writer has.

Best of luck,
-Lars
Lars Nood=E9n (org)
=09OpenOffice.org: Now ISO 26300 Standards Compliant !

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[discuss] France says OpenOffice.org is not secure enough

Posted: 14 Aug 2006 07:35 AM PDT

On Thu, 2006-08-17 at 01:35 +0100, Sander Vesik wrote: 
 

It has been patched according to the above reference. Takes me myself
about 5 minutes to upgrade - well ok it takes a bit longer to download
the code but I can do other things while that is happening. My Ubuntu
distro provides me with security updates on a regular basis so I assume
that this is likely to include such things and in any case the number of
people that send me ODF documents at the moment is small and mostly
people who I do know and trust so again I think the chance of a disaster
is small. Ok there could be something similar in the future when ODF is
the preferred file format for exchanging documents but then that could
be true of any Office software based on the track record so far.
 

I have proof of concept of several theoretical ways of making a billion
dollars. I'm not that rich yet ;-)

In summary,

Fix security vulnerabilities and publicise them
Don't get over-paranoid about theory
Weigh up cost against benefit/risk

For me I don't see any compelling reason to stop using OOo in my
business on the grounds of security. I see no alternative that has an
objectively better track record on security and in general the overall
cost of keeping the alternatives secure seems significantly higher.
Theoretically there could be something a lot better, in practise I'm yet
to find it.

Ian
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www.schoolforge.org.uk
www.opendocumentfellowship.org

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[discuss] opening txt files in calc

Posted: 11 Aug 2006 09:35 AM PDT

Tomas Lanczos wrote: 

Another (Windows-centric) solution is to rename the file to .csv and
associate that file type with OOo.

--
Andy Luddy
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"He who cannot forgive breaks the bridge over which he himself must pass."
... George Herbert (1593-1633)

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[discuss] Drag-and-drop saving

Posted: 11 Aug 2006 08:41 AM PDT

On Fri, 2006-08-11 at 16:29 +0100, Folderol wrote: 

So would I, but it might not be that easy since that facility was an
operating system feature not a feature of one application. It was easy
to make it a standard thing for all applications if its a set of OS
calls from any app. How would an application know if you dropped an icon
in its window from say a OOo Draw save? I guess the filing thing would
be doable but you would still have to have some mechanism for OOo draw
to know which Windows were open where in the filer and where the pointer
was etc. If its only a feature of OOo it loses a lot of the power.

Ian
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